How do you fit black knights into a full army?

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

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When you play The droid tactic, do you use any specific items items/sets that work in conjunction with droids? Because from what i've seen as stats they are not impressive, and I dont see why you bother wasting 3 slots on healers + guard droid, when your target unit is the black knight? I suppose the fact that your whole army is immune to mind spells is a bonus, but I really cant place the droids strategically - their damage is mediocre and apart from being self-sustaining I fail to recognize their utility.
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Royal Hammer (+5 attack, -15% leadership dwarves), Engineer's Badge (+2 intellect, -20% leadership droids), and Horn of King Borg (+5 attack dwarves, -10% leadership dwarves) all add up to -45% leadership for droids; so you almost double your droid count, which effectively doubles their survivability and damage output.

They have 20% physical resistance and 80% poison resistance, high mobility (speed 5 and 3 for repair and guard droids respectively), and repair droids have a reload 3 repair ability that "resurrects" a massive 85% comparable leadership; Eviln level 3 at 30% stack resurrection looks pathetic in comparison, and that requires 35 mana. And don't even mention to me the Resurrection spell, not when I'm trying to resurrect a 45,000+ leadership stack that is being whacked on the head by three 70,000+ leadership enemy stacks on Impossible difficulty.

They draw aggro from enemies like moths to a fire. So long as your enemies can attack them, they will leave your black knights and bone dragons alone, sidestepping them to reach the droids if need be.

You guessed it, these self-sustaining near-impossible to kill droids will act as tanks for your team, allowing your bone dragons and black knights to concentrate on DPS.

Droid damage is mediocre? You must have only used repair droids. At half-stack (you normally split them into two stacks) I understand how their halved damage could indeed look mediocre. You should always use both guard and repair droids, or none at all. Let the full stack of guard droids take on ALL possible enemies it could draw aggro, then fly in your repair droids to repair it.

To bad I can't attach the Excel file I used to evaluate all units from all the races. Taking leadership, attack value and damage, repair droids' damage (0.11 Damage Per Leadership) is between that of a bowman (0.10 DPL) and hunter (0.12 DPL); guard droids' damage (0.18 DPL) is between that of swordsmen (0.17 DPL) and veteran orcs/decaying zombies (0.19 DPL). Royal Snakes are at (0.21 DPL) so not bad, though they are not as easy to resurrect as droids or undead. Black Knights actually just start off at 0.18 DPL (same as guard droids), though their special ability makes it a lot higher as they attack more.

[john_crapper]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

Royal Hammer (+5 attack, -15% leadership dwarves), Engineer's Badge (+2 intellect, -20% leadership droids), and Horn of King Borg (+5 attack dwarves, -10% leadership dwarves) all add up to -45% leadership for droids; so you almost double your droid count, which effectively doubles their survivability and damage output.


To bad I can't attach the Excel file I used to evaluate all units from all the races.

Do you KB Scan for all these first? And you can always upload the excel file anywhere.

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

Do you KB Scan for all these first? And you can always upload the excel file anywhere.

I use the scanner primarily for Ancient Knowledge scrolls and other +XP items. Since I only play a campaign once (too little time to play) I can't leave to chance the existence (or lack thereof) of these items for a high score run.

In KBAP I didn't scan for these droid items as I didn't plan to take them from the get-go; I did scan for the Black Helmet and Eviln as I wanted to get Black Knights.

My KBAP unit evaluation Excel file in ZIP format attached; good thing ZIP is allowed here. As you can see, I called the repair droid "auto 1" and guard droid "auto 2" because I created this unit evaluation file even before I got my hands on KBAP.

[john_crapper]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

I use the scanner primarily for Ancient Knowledge scrolls and other +XP items. Since I only play a campaign once (too little time to play) I can't leave to chance the existence (or lack thereof) of these items for a high score run.

In KBAP I didn't scan for these droid items as I didn't plan to take them from the get-go; I did scan for the Black Helmet and Eviln as I wanted to get Black Knights.

My KBAP unit evaluation Excel file in ZIP format attached; good thing ZIP is allowed here. As you can see, I called the repair droid "auto 1" and guard droid "auto 2" because I created this unit evaluation file even before I got my hands on KBAP.

A legend would've been nice. Like what's LPL and why are some of the numbers blue/red/bald-ed. And what does the final score stand for.

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

(too little time to play)

Oh my Deity, If making such a spreadsheet just for the sake of statistical analysis is your idea of limited time to play, I pray you never go on a KB binge.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

A legend would've been nice. Like what's LPL and why are some of the numbers blue/red/bald-ed. And what does the final score stand for.



Oh my Deity, If making such a spreadsheet just for the sake of statistical analysis is your idea of limited time to play, I pray you never go on a KB binge.

Lore goes all out when he does play. He gave me a run down on the best places to use Ancient Knowledge scrolls.

I did a lot of homework when planning for my 100% Critical Ranged Warrior build. I don't know about an extensive spreadsheet though.

It is worth it when it comes together. Killing nearly every boss in Impossible in about 10 rounds (some in 4, some in 12) - No loss is what I call... fun.

After I win with my Impossible Mage build, I want to try out an Impossible Paladin build using heavy melee. Not sure if I will hit 0 losses though on that one.

[john_crapper]

Originally Posted by ckdamascus

Lore goes all out when he does play. He gave me a run down on the best places to use Ancient Knowledge scrolls.

And where might that be?

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

And where might that be?

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...ient+knowledge

Buried in the thread somewhere. I just did a search for Ancient Knowledge and remembered it was in my "I got 9 AKs!" thread.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by john_crapper

A legend would've been nice. Like what's LPL and why are some of the numbers blue/red/bald-ed. And what does the final score stand for.



Oh my Deity, If making such a spreadsheet just for the sake of statistical analysis is your idea of limited time to play, I pray you never go on a KB binge.

Color coding was just manual highlights to point out promising values.

The last value is a susceptibility to a high attack rating monster (specifically attack rating 56). So the value is the bonus damage the enemy has against you!

In other words, the lower the better. The lower values indict a significantly better tank with normal attacks, and abilities except for dancing axes, astral attacks, and poison axes.

It uses a base attack of 56 (enemy) and applies it against the unit's defense.

Hmmm I could probably re-work and re-use this sheet. I've been on a quest for more insane winning combinations.

[rollems]

Black nights fit in very well with humans

checks this out it was ownage army with focus on high morale i used in AP
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...ht=High+morale

You need Moro Dark as companion to do the trick

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by rollems

Black nights fit in very well with humans

checks this out it was ownage army with focus on high morale i used in AP
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...ht=High+morale

You need Moro Dark as companion to do the trick

I would abuse them more if only they could eat an EvilN and still attack in the same round. Bleh.