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Old 09-27-2010, 04:45 PM
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I think people are saying the same thing, just in a different way .

BTW, I had no idea any 0other aircraft had something similar. Advances made during the war never cease to amaze me. War is terrible, but it brings out a certain level of "inventiveness", just look at the aircraft development from pre-war through the end.

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Old 09-27-2010, 05:58 PM
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I think this device was standard in most dive bombers, for example the SBD Dauntless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_...land,_1943.jpg

I'm not sure about the D3A Val however, the pictures i found were not clear enough. I didn't look thoroughly to be honest, just a quick search, so others might be able to find more information
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Old 09-27-2010, 06:12 PM
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Of all the footage I have watched of WWII planes over the years, I have never noticed that before!

I guess it is true that it's what you learn after you know it all that really counts lol. Awesome find. You guys are WWII aircraft nerds and I mean that in the BEST way.

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Old 09-27-2010, 08:10 PM
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It may have been the case in other dive bombers as well, but most of those could not dive in the same vertical (90 degrees)way the Stuka did, the guidance system was really necessary to avoid smashing the bomb in the propellor, in other dive bombers this was not completely necessary as they could not stabalize or get the plane in to a full 90 degrees position, more like a safety maganism for those divers.

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"The Vengeance and Dantless were both very good but could dive no more than 60 or 70 degrees. The Stuka was in a class of its own"
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Old 09-28-2010, 02:39 AM
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I think this device was standard in most dive bombers, for example the SBD Dauntless: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_...land,_1943.jpg

I'm not sure about the D3A Val however, the pictures i found were not clear enough. I didn't look thoroughly to be honest, just a quick search, so others might be able to find more information
This one do ????



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Old 09-28-2010, 05:23 AM
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No Val's currently exist - what you're looking at is a modified Vultee Valiant used to shoot movies

However, they did use a trapeze system.
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Old 09-29-2010, 03:52 AM
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No Val's currently exist - what you're looking at is a modified Vultee Valiant used to shoot movies

However, they did use a trapeze system.
Actually, One Val does exist!
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Old 09-29-2010, 05:46 AM
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Yes, and it's not far from me:

http://www.planesoffame.org/index.ph...ation-projects
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:35 AM
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Well that just made my day mate!
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:13 PM
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I think people are saying the same thing, just in a different way .

BTW, I had no idea any 0other aircraft had something similar. Advances made during the war never cease to amaze me. War is terrible, but it brings out a certain level of "inventiveness", just look at the aircraft development from pre-war through the end.

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Yeup, sounds like everyone was thinking the same thing, just using the wrong words!

The SBD Dauntless used the exact same "trapeze" method as well.

PS, I heard it called a "cradle"
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