Friday 2010-09-17 Dev. update and Discussions

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by Richie

Take a look at the damage on this Emil. I'm surprised he was able to ditch usually they don't do to well I've heard when damaged badly. That may be B.S. though

This is the aircraft of Erich Mix in France 1940.


http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...dYKlwS4ETzAWM=

Erich Mix (27 June 1898 in Labuhnken(Trzcińsk) in Starogard Gdański (West Prussia) – 9 April 1971 in Wiesbaden) was a German politician, member of the Nazi Party, later a member of the FDP and Flying ace during World War II.

Mix fought as an infantryman in the World War I before he trained as a fighter pilot and posted to the Saxon jasta 54, where, as an Unteroffizer from June 1918 until the end of the war, he scored 3 aerial victories (plus one unconfirmed balloon) of Jasta 54's total of 22 victories, for which he was awarded both Classes of the Iron Cross.[1]

After the war, he studied law at the University of Greifswald and made a career as a leading administrative official. In 1934, he became Mayor of Tilsit (1934 to 1937), later of Wiesbaden (1 April 1937 to 1945 and again from 25 February 1954 to 25 February 1960). In the following year, he started flying again, training as an observer and as a fighter pilot in 1937.


Serving as technical officer with I./JG 53 at the outbreak of WW2, Mix claimed 3 French Morane fighters over Saargemund on 21 September 1939, and four more on 22 November 1939 over Saarbrücken.

Now commanding III./JG 2, three more Moranes were claimed on 21 May 1940, although Mix was shot down and forced to land in a field near Roye on 21 May in Bf 109E-3 W.Nr.1526.

After being hospitalized, Mix returned to III./JG 2 on 19 June. He left France with his unit and relocated to Frankfurt/Rhein-Main on 1 July. On 27 July, the unit returned to Évreux-West until 4 August. Mix claimed a Hawker Hurricane on 4 September. Mix remained Gruppenkommandeur of III./JG 2 until 24 September 1940, when he became one of the older commanders dismissed by a frustrated Goering in favour of the younger, up-and-coming aces of 1940; in Mix's case, Major Helmut Wick. Mix's final claim was a Bristol Blenheim over den Haag in July 1941, while commanding JG 1.

During World War II, he thus claimed 8 (potentially 13) aerial victories.

[Pierre@]

As Gruppe Kommandeur of III./JG 2, Major Erich Mix' Bf 109 E-4 (W.Nr. 1526) was shot down by Morane Saulnier MS 406s on 21 May 1940.
Big holes on fuselage are impacts of 20 mm shells.

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by Pierre@

As Gruppe Kommandeur of III./JG 2, Major Erich Mix' Bf 109 E-4 (W.Nr. 1526) was shot down by Morane Saulnier MS 406s on 21 May 1940.
Big holes on fuselage are impacts of 20 mm shells.

Pierre, Is Your name Pierre Alfaro?

[Xilon_x]

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loock this american airplane damage continue to flight ant pilot return to home. very hard.
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[Daniël]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

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loock this american airplane damage continue to flight ant pilot return to home. very hard.

Really?! I think it is almost impossible to go fly home with half of the wing torn off on a combat mission with a lot of flak. Those guys were very lucky or just very good pilots. (or both)

[winny]

This would make a good thread on it's own.. A 'how the hell did they get home' thread.

[albx]

well this is an israeli F15, another era

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_EXtBEaBbs

[JVM]

Originally Posted by Daniël

Really?! I think it is almost impossible to go fly home with half of the wing torn off on a combat mission with a lot of flak.

Apparently not...there are some other famous examples like an Israeli F-15 in more recent years...

In this case the pilot (alone) was able to come back and successfully ditched the plane besides his carrier.
He was alone because the other crew members bailed out in the area of Chi Chi Jima island where the aircraft was damaged due to air-to-air collision with another Avenger which had just lost a complete wing destroyed by the heavy flak.
The unfortunate crew members were beheaded by the island garrison troops...

JV

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by AWL_Spinner

REX is wonderful, but within the confines of the FS-X engine it's akin to putting lipstick on a pig.

FS-X is a wonderful tool for generating screenshots, but you have to bear in mind that these are largely 2D images which do a crazy dance if you try and get in among them - FS-X just isn't build for properly volumetric clouds and whilst you can generate some stunning flat images with burnt-in shadows on the ground and REX clouds behind you, they don't look nearly as good in close-up motion as they do in a still.

I'd take less detail in properly rendered 3D clouds any day!

(although, having said that, whilst the lighting looks great in the screenshots we've seen so far from SoW, the clouds are an area that worry me.... hoping for some more exciting atmospherics to be revealed in future updates)

Cheers, Spinner

Yep, I can see what you mean. Judging from the pictures and videos shown, the clouds in SoW do look volumetric so I am confident that clouds which look like REX can be achieved. It's all about shape really, as clouds in Britain generally always have flat bottoms apart from when you see parts of clouds 'break' off; in which case a kind of spiral can be seen in the sky. WoP has this type of cloud modelled, and it looks quite nice really. A google search for clouds will bring up good results.
A few updates back I posted a youtube video of a 2007 cloud application (called nimbus or something like that) which showed some awesome looking clouds, so I really do think that it's possible

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by reflected

These shots are amazing as usual. I really can't wait for this game. Now that I've watched "First Light" I'm literrally sitting on needles!

BTW, the font used on RAF planes is not correct for the era. Why don't you use this one?

http://www.simmerspaintshop.com/foru...ww2_851ath-77/



( I know it's from 1941, but the font is the same)

Nice to see you mate. If I were you, I'd read First Light (although I thought you had....) as it is a lot better than the programme IMHO. But I echo your enthusiasm. These recent shots are killers. The game is looking really nice.