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Old 09-16-2010, 09:42 AM
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Is this the kind of positive feedback you were expecting, Blackdog_kt?



Seriously, though, I agree with you, Blackdog_kt! I said before (on a different forum) that Oleg and Co. are throwing out 'scraps to the dogs' and they must get some comic relief watching the antics...but that's not a bad thing! Obviously, he is willing to tell us a bit about their progress and nothing about the expected release date, for whatever reasons. More importantly is the fact that they still get a sense of how their innovations are being received and I'm sure they view the criticisms with a certain amount of tolerance and understanding. First of all, the statistics of the number of people who are critical of various things are few compared to the number of posters and the total number of viewers on any given update week. Second, a large number of criticisms, to a developer, when viewed in the context of some average percent of the total viewers can mean something....it's a statistic like a poll that tells the pollster that a percentage of the population feels strongly about some aspect. In this case, the weekly pictures are the poll, and the response can be judged from the feedback. However, you have to relate the number of positive and negative responses to the total number of viewers. Sometimes, it's apparent that a forum reader will make a first new post just because he feels strongly enough about something in one of the screenshots to finally post about it. And third, many posters are regulars who post again and again, so that has to be taken into consideration by the developers so it doesn’t warp the perception of the kind of feedback, positive or negative.

I think that they take all these things into consideration, they must be aware of them, and they are not dissuaded nor discouraged by the feedback. And I suspect that the weekly pleas for a release date or schedule just makes Oleg smile at the eagerness of the fans while he ignores those requests.

As a developer I would be much more worried about an apathetic audience than an over zealous one!
Yup, that's exactly what i'm talking about, it's like a polling system to see what the people expect to see
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Old 09-16-2010, 10:30 AM
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lol, no offence taken mate, i know im an annoying git
You do realize that my 'Are we there? Shappup' comment wasn't directed at you. Not that I'm trying to be a putz to those who find you an "annoying git", but I'm just surprised at folks reactions after all this time.

I can understand it... I'm just still surprised.


I COULDN'T pass up the Mr. Rogers thing though. It was tailor made for you, Tree.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:02 PM
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Oddly enough, my reply wasn't directed at you either, Tree. I'd never confuse an annoying git with a turd. It was more of a general tirade on the overall situation in the forums (and granted, quite harsh). I would also like to see more of what's going on too, but a lot of it just can't be talked about because of legal/business considerations, or because of the simple fact that these guys are probably creating one of the most complex games ever made and they just don't know exactly how long it's going to take. Whenever we get a hint at whatever information is available for us, it get's dragged through the mud and blown out of proportion anyway, resulting in no real gain for the community.
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:06 PM
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LOL, I just realized how much time I spend bitching and moaning about the bitching and moaning. It's really an endless circle isn't it? Or is it a spiral?
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Old 09-16-2010, 01:23 PM
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For you Tree. Of course tongue is firmly planted in cheek.
Fantastic!
I really did laugh out loud.
Just Superb.
Nice one!
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:54 PM
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LOL, I just realized how much time I spend bitching and moaning about the bitching and moaning. It's really an endless circle isn't it? Or is it a spiral?
lol I know you wasn't calling me a turd personally buddy. No offence was taken.
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Old 09-16-2010, 02:54 PM
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You do realize that my 'Are we there? Shappup' comment wasn't directed at you. Not that I'm trying to be a putz to those who find you an "annoying git", but I'm just surprised at folks reactions after all this time.

I can understand it... I'm just still surprised.


I COULDN'T pass up the Mr. Rogers thing though. It was tailor made for you, Tree.
I did rather enjoy it myself
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Old 09-17-2010, 12:45 AM
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Ah the new menu music for SOW.
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Old 09-17-2010, 01:20 AM
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Amazing level of detail in the Emil cockpit, great job!
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Old 09-17-2010, 09:42 AM
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Amazing....may I have some more please?
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