1 significant historic and 3 detail errors with Ju88 model

[KG26_Alpha]

Its clear only in the sense that official records would have recorded the fact.

Field modifications and staffel state of flux account for lots of anomalies in whats is fact and recorded data.

The fact that the original Ju88 A1 in this thread apparently sunk as KG 30 and was raised as KG 100 kinda goes along with that.

[Flying Pencil]

He-111 bottom gunner, same as 88A-1 has.


Me in 111, taking notes.


Ju-88A-1 lower rear area, minus the gondola


The corroded back panel in Ju88 inside...


outside...


...and after removing it.



They where incredible and gave me a LOT of room to study and take pictures (note the top hatch is open!)

[robtek]

Wonderful pictures!
More, more!!

[Flying Pencil]

Hook of DOOOM! (should not be too hard to figure this out)

[Friendly_flyer]

Originally Posted by Frantishek

He-111 bottom gunner, same as 88A-1 has.

Very nice!

Are the spent cartridges put in for show, or were they found there when the plane was raised?

[Skarphol]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

Very nice!

Are the spent cartridges put in for show, or were they found there when the plane was raised?

I'm pretty sure that is He 111P 5J+CN wich is in Gardermoen, if I'm right this plane wasn't raised but salvaged by helicopter from the mountains near Lesja.

Anyhow; I thought the whole purpose of that kind of MG-magazine was to collect all the spent cartrigdes in the right half? Having lots of empty cartrigdes flying around in the gondola while firing the gun must be very distracting for the gunner?

Skarphol

[robtek]

afaik there are rounds in both sides of the mag (75 each side), fed alternately, while the spent cartridges are ejected downward.

[Flying Pencil]

Originally Posted by Friendly_flyer

Very nice!

Are the spent cartridges put in for show, or were they found there when the plane was raised?

Yes, exactly as they where found!!!1!1one!



Heck no! J/K! Laid there for show.

Originally Posted by Skarphol

I'm pretty sure that is He 111P 5J+CN wich is in Gardermoen, if I'm right this plane wasn't raised but salvaged by helicopter from the mountains near Lesja.

Anyhow; I thought the whole purpose of that kind of MG-magazine was to collect all the spent cartrigdes in the right half? Having lots of empty cartrigdes flying around in the gondola while firing the gun must be very distracting for the gunner?

Skarphol

Correct, 111P 5J+CN, rescued off a mountain.
And robtek (below) correctly described the operation.

Normally there is a collection bag under the MG15, but few exist today.
BUT, the very low mounting of the MG15 puts it so close, in this case there is a door at the bottom, between the piles of casings, the gunner could open and dump them out the 111.

Originally Posted by robtek

afaik there are rounds in both sides of the mag (75 each side), fed alternately, while the spent cartridges are ejected downward.

Correct, 37 each side, 1 in middle.

[Friendly_flyer]

Nice touch though. Hawing fired a few MG's in my life, the little heap of cartridges rally brings forth the "being there" feeling.