difference between the spitVb and the spitLF V??

[David198502]

hey swiss!!!il2 compare works fine!but can you explain me the 4 types of diagrams?
MAX TAS by altitude,max ROC by altitude,ROC by constant TAS and turn time by speed.
as i understand it, max tas by altitude shows the maximum speed in a certain altitude, turn time by speed shows the time the plane needs to fly a 360degree turn with a certain speed, and roc at constant tas shows the altitude the plane gains with a certain speed in a certain time.please correct me if i misunderstood something. and i dont know what the max roc by altitude-diagram shows.answers would be appreciated!!

[swiss]

all correct.
ROC by alt basically shows you how your lift changes by altitude.
Take a 109E4 vs a Hurri.
You will notice you can:
- outspeed the hurri up to 6000m
- outclimb the hurri up to 4500m
- you cannot outturn the hurri

Above those altitudes the hurri will catch you.

Now take your time and think about possible maneuvers.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by swiss

Above those altitudes the hurri will catch you.

That may be what happens in game, but it ain't right.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

That may be what happens in game, but it ain't right.

pls go find the FM complaint thread, thx.

[David198502]

thank you very much swiss!!!you are really helpful.by the way, on which servers do you play usually???i think i have never seen you online.my codename in game is davidred

[JtD]

Originally Posted by Igo kyu

That may be what happens in game, but it ain't right.

Please tell more.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by JtD

Please tell more.

"Luftwaffe Fighter Aces" Mike Spick:

109E-3 max speed 354 mph, service ceiling 36,091 ft, rate of climb 3,282 ft/min.

Hurricane 1 max speed 316 mph, service ceiling 33,2001 ft, rate of climb 2,300 ft/min.

The 109 was known to be superlative at higher altitude, a captured example wasn't tested all the way up due to lack of compatible oxygen equipment so this wasn't known early in the war.

The Hurricane turned tighter I believe.

[swiss]

which servers do you play usually

Spitvs109 (mod)
QueenslandII
Kampfverband 13
Skies of Valor

sometimes:

Warclouds
Skies of Fire
RCAFFB: I got banned there, dont know why - well, I think s.o. accused me of kill stealing, which is not true btw.

, a captured example wasn't tested all the way up due to lack of compatible oxygen equipment

I find this hard to believe...

[koivis]

The comparison posted by swiss works only if you compare Bf 109E-4/B against Hurricane Mk II. However, Hurricane Mk I (ingame version which is worse than in BoB) will not catch the normal fighter E-4 by running or climbing in ANY altitude. Anyway, at sea level even the slowest Bf 109 is ~45 km/h faster than the fastest Hurricane.

[Igo kyu]

Originally Posted by swiss

I find this hard to believe...

"The Narrow Margin" Wood and Dempster, page 148:

In the trials and handling of the Me 109 one vital aspect of performance testing was omitted, general handling and speed above 20,000 feet. ... In addition oxygen was not available for the 109 on test which limited the ceiling at which the pilot could operate.