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Old 07-30-2010, 01:27 AM
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Can I suggest that anyone who feels 'let down' by TD stops complaining, unless they have something constructive to add. Endless whining isn't going to make anything happen quicker...
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TD can always say "bugger it" and stop any further production and not release anything at all.

I too, am anxiously waiting for this patch to be released, however I would want it working properly and have than riddled with bugs and get turned off this great game.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:29 AM
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So,because of that,I can give a suggestion.

Call me anything for saying this,but an open Beta would be the solution.
We get what we want,and we report any problem if we find them.
Hundreds of people looking for bugs in a world (literaly) looks more eficcient than a few dozens that unfortunately doesn´t have enough time.

BTW,say anything,but not that I mean TD is incompetent and useless.
Then we would trade release whining for "OMG it doesn't work... TD suxxxx0rs" whining.
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Old 07-30-2010, 01:50 AM
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Well at least it would be a change then

They say a change is as good as a rest - might get us 4.11 faster? Or maybe we should buy some machines for TD members that make whining noises? I'd pitch in.
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Old 07-30-2010, 04:56 AM
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Then we would trade release whining for "OMG it doesn't work... TD suxxxx0rs" whining.
Lol?
Thought by the SSs everything was going well,no major bugs,at least.
Wanted to help,since till august I have plenty free time.
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Old 07-30-2010, 05:32 AM
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At less i would like to known what is happening. No respect at all with IL2 fans.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:41 AM
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Just maybe we forgot that this people have been able to make things work not too long ago.

These people, and yes I mean the TD team members, didn’t start just now to deliver value to this sim.
As individuals, they have been doing so for quite a while and the community has been able to appreciate it.

With some perspective, most of us have a clear idea of how this sim has evolved in the last year and a half.
How things have change in the virtual skies and how our own expectations have also change.

Does anyone know where the limit is…?

When things have become formal, when the team signs some kind of agreement, when 4.10 cohabitates
(competes?¿) with the SoW updates, only then… things seem to be getting confusing and maybe difficult
to explain or understand.

I am sure, almost, that this is a matter of “management of expectations”. We see ourselves as clients but
also as members of a community.
As clients “WE WANT” as members of the community “WE TRY TO UNDERSTAND”.

Salutes Majo.
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Old 07-30-2010, 06:27 PM
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Accountability is probably the first and foremost reason that this project is running late. These men are accountable to their families, their jobs, and to their real world commitments as well as their own desire to put out a top quality product well before any need to pacify entitlement age twits who need to have everything they want immediately.
Thank you, I wouldn't say it better myself. Also as we tried to explain several times, the schedule posted was provisional and yes, we have changed too many things compared to the original intended content for 4.10.

Open beta - no added value for TD or IL-2 fans. We are aware of the issues, it takes time to polish/fix them. Minor bugs we may not catch will be addressed via dedicated bug reporting thread and fixed in 4.11.

I guess it will need to be repeated on weekly basis and even though it has been said in this thread already:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpos...postcount=1208

Lesson learned from 4.10 development however: To release much smaller and less complex patches with small content in the future = less complaining and less work for us.

4.10 Update: We have initiated another round of beta testing last week. Still things to do, but it's another step closer.

Thanks for patience and do enjoy the summer till it lasts.

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Old 07-30-2010, 06:38 PM
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thank you Martin... you guys always do a great job!! thumbs up!!

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Old 07-30-2010, 08:10 PM
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Great to see the emplimentation of additional inputs/axis for multi-engine aircraft. Can we see this happen with wheel brakes in future patches as well?
As a real pilot using rudder peddals in-game, a single-axis for wheel braking has always bugged me about this sim series.

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Old 07-30-2010, 09:06 PM
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Thanks for the update, Martin! It is much appreciated.

Thanks,

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