109 etc. Riat 2010

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

Svastica is illegal.

Only in Germany - if used without correct historical context.

wiki:

The European Union's Executive Commission proposed a European Union-wide anti-racism law in 2001, but European Union states failed to agree on the balance between prohibiting racism and freedom of expression.[63] An attempt to ban the swastika across the EU in early 2005 failed after objections from the British Government and others. In early 2007, while Germany held the European Union presidency, Berlin proposed that the European Union should follow German Criminal Law and criminalize the denial of the Holocaust and the display of Nazi symbols including the swastika, which is based on the Ban on the Symbols of Unconstitutional Organisations Act. This led to an opposition campaign by Hindu groups across Europe against a ban on the swastika. They pointed out that the swastika has been around for 5,000 years as a symbol of peace.[64][65] The proposal to ban the swastika was dropped by Berlin from the proposed European Union wide anti-racism laws on January 29, 2007.[63]

[Glider_UK]

Well I think i'll hold off posting any more pics then. The next thing we will be bitching about will be the red crosses on tunics from the crusades. Never deny the past but always learn from it. that is my opinion.

[JtD]

I'll certainly be bitching about something if you hold off posting more pics.

Waiting for more.

[lbuchele]

It´s important here everytime you post a picture of old or present aircraft with a swastika on it to write a post-it , something like : "please I´m not a nazi lover, I not agree with holocaust, I don´t approve Hitler,etc..."
This way you prevent that some people initiate the same boring and senseless discussion about something that everyone here that came to this forum are tired to know:
We like history, we like accuracy,we doesn´t like nazism at all.
Period.
Let´s move to more constructive discussion.

[Glider_UK]

Unless Daffy is Controversial

[swiss]

still a butt ugly airplane

[Xilon_x]

loock this simbol.
this simbol call FASCIO is illegal?

[LukeFF]

A swastika debate that goes bad - gee, who would've guessed that would happen?

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by Glider_UK

Well I think i'll hold off posting any more pics then. The next thing we will be bitching about will be the red crosses on tunics from the crusades. Never deny the past but always learn from it. that is my opinion.

Please continue posting your pics, love to see them. This whole swastika discussion that emerges every once in a while here and elswhere is idiotic. Having authentic markings in WW2 era airplane (how authetic the sample picture here was is irrelevant) is a totally different story than having it stiched into the jacket shoulder of a neonazi or whatever.

I can't believe the hysterical reaction even some smart individuals still have on 'forbidden' emblems in historical context. If our way of protecting the ugly part of our history from repeating itself is so much bound on irrelevant details like this we're waaay off the target.

It's like the discussion on immigration in many countries these days: voice any criticism or concern on anything related to that and you're a racists by default who wants to 'close the borders'. After a while in this dialogue the nazi-card is pulled from the deck eventually too.

A good summary of the above is a comment in this thread: "Do you mean you approve of the holocaust?"

WTF?!

Hate to stirr the water of this overdiscussed subject but couldn't help myself even though Blackdog put my thoughts to words pretty well.