Important place of ww2

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by swiss

what kind of stratigic targets were in North England or Scotland?

Shipyards around Newcastle, Tyneside Sunderland etc


In reality Luftflotte 5 only made one serious attack which was a disaster:

Quote from Narrow Margin by Derek Wood and Derek Dempster:

"Then followed an attack which was to be the most interesting of the whole day. Banking on tactical surprise and conveniently forgetting the radar chain, Luftflotte 5 launched two simultaneous thrusts in the north and the north-east. They expected little opposition and their reception came as a painful surprise."

"At 8 minutes past 12 radar began to plot a formation of twenty plus opposite the Firth of Forth at a range of over 90 miles. As the raid drew closer the estimates went up to thirty in three sections flying SW towards Tynemouth."

"At Watnall the approach of 13 Groups first daylight raid was watched on the operations table with particular interest. With an hours warning the controller was able to put squadrons in an excellent position to attack, with 72 Squadron Spitfires in the path of the enemy off the Farne Islands and 605 Squadron over Tyneside. Nos 79 and 607 were also put up, but while the latter was in the path of the raid, No 79 was too far north."

"No 72 Squadron from Acklington was the first to make contact and it came as a distinct shock when the thirty materialised as I and III/KG 26 with sixty-five Heinkel 111s, and the entire I/ZG 76 from Stavanger with thirty-four Me 110s. After a brief pause in which to survey the two massive groups flying in vic formation, Squadron-Leader E. Graham led No 72 straight in from the flank, one section attacking the fighters, and the rest the bombers."

"The Me 110s formed defensive circles, while the Heinkels split up. Some of them jettisoned their bombs and headed back to Norway, leaving several of their number in the sea. The separate parts of the formation finally reached the coast, one south of Sunderland and the other south of Acklington. No 79 intercepted the northern group over the water, while a flight from No 605 Squadron caught it over land. Most of the HEs fell harmlessly in the sea."

"The group off Sunderland found Nos 607 and 41 waiting for it and they too bombed to little effect, apart from wrecking houses. The raiders turned back to Norway, the Me 110s having already departed some minutes before. Of a total force of about 100, eight bombers and seven fighters were destroyed and several more damaged without British loss. The airfield targets such as Usworth, Linton on Ouse and Dishforth went unscathed. One Staffel of III/KG 26 lost five of its nine aircraft in the course of the fighting."

[Xilon_x]

oooooooooooo yes yes JVM tank you for your information i loock your photo.

yes this is desvres ww2 airport.

[JVM]

Beware! there was not really any control tower at Desvres airfield: the area you mention contains the park, farm and "chateau du Desert" which had been commandeered by the Luftwaffe for the pilots and troops of course. The hangar you see is a modern 1990 ULM hangar not much used nowadays.
No hangar exists in Desvres anymore, only their bases as in the photo, aligned along the south peripheral taxiway and the around the small wood on the West.
There were also some hangar bases (probably only blast walls actually) around the chateau area to the east, but they have been destroyed last year.

JVM

[Xilon_x]

Gibraltair.

[HundertneunGustav]

Gibraltar is okay...

gimme spanish heinkels, portuguese glosters and P-39s...
SM-79 and CANT Bombers from sardigna...

But i remember no "big" aerial battles around the Monkey's Rock.
Planes passing, protection of shipping lanes... recce flights...

for shipping, its an important place. in SHIII that spot is a bi*ch to pass, but rich Uboat hunting ground.

interesting spot really. could be used as a starting point for Malta convoys.

[Xilon_x]

you not remember Italian heavy bombers Piaggio p 108 to Gibraltar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piaggio_P.108

[HundertneunGustav]

i see why pearl harbos has been done. for one massive big arse attack that went dow in history and had a big effect.

but create a map for gibraltar, send a handsful of Piaggios over and you call that "important"?

interesting. at best.
consider the work!!!

[swiss]

Very important place:

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/22714

Lots of war changing thoughts were made there - can we please have one in the game?