Diplomatic

[jhartfd]

I have also played Sweden. My experience with diplomacy has been mixed. If you follow the instructions on the tutorial and send a diplomat there not to do any negotiations but just to reside there for a while, and you check the diplomacy screen every now and then and wait for the attitude to change from indifferent to the next step up, there is a reasonable chance you will get a trade deal. Send a merchant and start trading. After a while the attitude will change to something like respectful. Try getting an alliance at that point. Although for me they sent a diplomat to me and I got an alliance that way.

I have had two problems with sending diplomats. One is that I usually only want them to reside there rather then bring up the negotiation screen. I wish they would change it so that there is an option on the negotiation screen that allows you to simply not negotiate and continue residing there. But once the negotiation screen comes up you either have to successfully negotiate something or you are out of luck. I really don't like that and it makes the whole diplomat thing incredibly iffy and expensive.

Secondly, when they send a diplomat to you and then don't allow you to accept what they are offering, I consider that just plain nonsense.

[jhartfd]

I determined what I was doing wrong concerning whether you want the diplomat to reside at the court you are sending it to or start immediate negotiations. If you want the diplomat simply to reside at the court for the purposes of improving relations over time without entering negotiations, do not click on the action button for the character in the right hand panel. Simply click on the character and then have the diplomat enter the city you are sending it to. If you see the seplcher instead of the enter city icon when you place the cursor over the destination city, the diplomat will immediately enter negotiations. By clicking on the diplomat and simply having it enter the city, it will reside.

I still think loosing a diplomat when a negotiation fails is way too expensive given the randomness of success and the fact that a monarch can only produce a single diplomat every 12 months. A more appropriate behavior would be the ability to end the negotiation with the diplomat being able to reside at the location, improving relations, and the ability to reenter negotiations in the following season.

I also still think the idea that when someone else sends a diplomat to you, the entirety of the senders position should display and you should be able to accept of reject. The current behavior of the diplomat showing up and you are unable to accept the offer is nothing short of absurd. This really has to be fixed.

[Vivas]

I give up on diplomacy for now, and shelf the game untill at least that part works, if just a little.

I worked years on improving relations with a single nation but more then being able to give tribute i didnt come. At some point however the nation i had given tribute to offered a alliance. From there i arranged a marriage, but a trade agreement whas still neglected after 6 diplomats, wile having a max standing with them, a alliance + a marriage, and still they asked me to improve relations first

So there i whas with a shitload on merchants waiting idle in my country because they werent able to do a single thing.

And yes every 5 or 10 minutes a foreign diplomat approaches me with a offer i can't accept because they want me to improve relations first before i accept THEIR offer.

[SinKiewicz]

What Tribute is I have no idea neither.
And eveytime I need a merchant or a ambassador send out, I have to click the Govorner or Mornarch out of the city first, and click in after for safty, fixation on that part is surely needed too.