Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[ImpalerNL]

Hello again,

When talking about the SM79 turning like a spitfire, i mean that it can keep its energy almost like a spitfire does when turning.

Infact i could yank back the stick fully, while useing max trim for turning.
The speed never dropped below 230 km/h, while i was on max fuel with 2x 500kg bombs.
It just wont stall.
I cannot do that with a HE111, Bf110, B25 or some other bomber.

[WWFlybert]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Ok, I'll admit to an obvious typo - now corrected.

I can't see much point in arguing torque vs gyroscopic precession unless you can explain how the torque changes as the result of a turn.

And please read what other people have written regarding turns:

Do you agree or disagree with this statement? And if you disagree, can you explain why?

I'm not really going to get in complex discussion on this here Andy

How it is not completely obvious to you that a small light weight plane traveling at a lower speed will turn tighter than a larger heavier plane traveling at greater speed, yet both can be achieving the same G-force ... well .. I don't know what to say .. think Zeke vs P-38 ..

Turning with the direction of torque will result in slightly better turn, with regards to WWII and modern single engine aircraft

Gyroscopic effects are relatively minor with inline engines because the rotating mass is relatively minor in relation to the mass of the plane

Perhaps I've not paid close enough attention, however I've not noticed Gyroscopic precession effects in IL-2 and only torque effects on take-offs

Again, it would be useful to know whether or not IL-2 models gyroscopic precession at all .. in these aircraft types, even single prop ( 2 or 4 engined planes cancel out with counter rotation ) types, the effect is likely so minor in real terms, that it may not have been worth the CPU cycles to include.

Rheinbeck pilots of rotary engined Camel claim the aircraft's ability to turn to the right so much better than to the left is more due to torque than gyroscopic precession .. though to some degree they too notice the tendency for the nose to rise and the requirement to apply down - inside rudder , which in turn slows the plane to stall speed if one tries to maintain altitude .. where to the right, the nose will tend to dive requiring up - outside elevator to maintain level flight .. however, it seems (not sure here) that because one is going in the direction of the torque and tending to dive, speed can be maintained better to prevent stalls

regardless .. I'm here to get news about the release and features of 4.10 and don't desire to add more pages to this thread

[Romanator21]

Originally Posted by ImpalerNL

Hello again,

When talking about the SM79 turning like a spitfire, i mean that it can keep its energy almost like a spitfire does when turning.

Infact i could yank back the stick fully, while useing max trim for turning.
The speed never dropped below 230 km/h, while i was on max fuel with 2x 500kg bombs.
It just wont stall.
I cannot do that with a HE111, Bf110, B25 or some other bomber.

The He-111, Bf-110, and B-25 don't have automatic slats. These greatly enhance lift at low speeds or high angles of attack.

[Hunden]

why do i bother checking for updates im such a loser

[bf-110]

No,we will be the first to know when 4.10 is released.

[ImpalerNL]

''The He-111, Bf-110, and B-25 don't have automatic slats. These greatly enhance lift at low speeds or high angles of attack''

Yes but those dont prevent stalls, or provides more enginepower.

Turning sharply (minimum radius turn) in the SM79 while carrying a max bomb load and fuel, feels like its on rails. No shaking, or other warnings that you are near the aircrafts limit.
And it will keep up its speed the whole time.

Even when flying a bf109, if your turning sharply, your speed reduces, and you will end up with a nose down attitude.

[janpitor]

I have the most recent. Installed two weaks ago

Originally Posted by Bobb4

The J88c is not in 4.10 as far as I can recall? It is in one of the unmentionable mods and I think recent updates to that mod have nerfed it's uber prowess in the turn department.

[nearmiss]

Originally Posted by Hunden

why do i bother checking for updates im such a loser

Patience is not a virtue bestowed upon us at birth, patience is a learned virtue

Enjoy the updates, check out the 4.09 and coming 4.10 updates. You'll find the IL2 is still the front runner air combat flight sim. In other words, there is NOTHING BETTER.

[CAF_Badnews]

Finaly, the 4.10,you expecting release for 2010 or later....? It suppose to relaase in may and we are on end of june...!!!

[crobol]

Originally Posted by CAF_Badnews

Finaly, the 4.10,you expecting release for 2010 or later....? It suppose to relaase in may and we are on end of june...!!!

You must learn to be patient.
It will be a big and free update, so don't panic. TeamDaidalos are working on his free time to do a good job and that's always more complicated than expected.

Remember they are working for free, spending his free time on it, to bring us great moments of flight.

If you see the videos of first post you will understand the complexity of adds on this update.