Little Moment in History on the Eastern Front

[olife]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Nice picture Foz. Funny how both those planes flew under the same mark at one time (WW2), and could have before that, flown under the same mark. (SCW)

And nice pictures too Bobby. I've seen that poster of Safonov before I think, and that pic of the I-16 and 109 is pretty sweet.... (You can see the I-16 pilot just waiting slipping in behind to get a kill shot. )

my bud soviet ace ,i have a question for u : i hear during ww2 many russians pilots do a "TARAN" attack,they crash their plane intentionaly into the ennemies planes to win during the dogfights like the japanese pilots,have u more infos about it,is it real or a propaganda idea?

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by olife

my bud soviet ace ,i have a question for u : i hear during ww2 many russians pilots do a "TARAN" attack,they crash their plane intentionaly into the ennemies planes to win during the dogfights like the japanese pilots,have u more infos about it,is it real or a propaganda idea?

Yeah man, they really did intentionally ram into enemy bombers, fighters, etc. to down them so they couldn't do anymore damage to the Motherland. Luganski, the Yak-3 pilot I mentioned before did it a lot with his IAP. (And that's why on the site I provided, it calls him the Master of the "Taran" Attack. They did it a lot in the early years of the war, because they'd be fighting for so long, that their plane was either out of ammo, or they were too damaged, they couldn't fight anymore, so their best bet to down one more plane was to ram it. Lots of people died doing it, but there were even people in the Red Air Force, that never got a single plane shot down with their guns, but became aces solely because they did the Taran attack!

Once the La-5 and better planes started coming out, and the Red Air Force got an overhaul in tactics and discipline, Taran attacks weren't used so much. But German pilots of fighters and bombers were always nervous when flying on the Easter Front, because they never knew if they'd be the victim of one of the collisions. For some reason, whenever I read about pilots doing a Taran attack, they're usually flying a MiG-1 or MiG-3, or some crummy plane like that.

And actually, Lilya Litvak "The White Rose" got a kill over Stalingrad when she rammed a 109 returning home. She bailed out, survived, and then died a while later in 1943 after being jumped by some 'hidden' 109s.

[olife]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Yeah man, they really did intentionally ram into enemy bombers, fighters, etc. to down them so they couldn't do anymore damage to the Motherland. Luganski, the Yak-3 pilot I mentioned before did it a lot with his IAP. (And that's why on the site I provided, it calls him the Master of the "Taran" Attack. They did it a lot in the early years of the war, because they'd be fighting for so long, that their plane was either out of ammo, or they were too damaged, they couldn't fight anymore, so their best bet to down one more plane was to ram it. Lots of people died doing it, but there were even people in the Red Air Force, that never got a single plane shot down with their guns, but became aces solely because they did the Taran attack!

Once the La-5 and better planes started coming out, and the Red Air Force got an overhaul in tactics and discipline, Taran attacks weren't used so much. But German pilots of fighters and bombers were always nervous when flying on the Easter Front, because they never knew if they'd be the victim of one of the collisions. For some reason, whenever I read about pilots doing a Taran attack, they're usually flying a MiG-1 or MiG-3, or some crummy plane like that.

And actually, Lilya Litvak "The White Rose" got a kill over Stalingrad when she rammed a 109 returning home. She bailed out, survived, and then died a while later in 1943 after being jumped by some 'hidden' 109s.

thanks a lot bud for this interresting reply,russians pilots were a very tough warriors!!

...and what a courageous girls pilots!!lilya is a famous and great lady with yekaterina.v. budanova too...i hear in the east front the girls soviet warriors were more cruel than the soviet men warriors in the ground fights!

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by olife

thanks a lot bud for this interresting reply,russians pilots were a very tough warriors!!

...and what a courageous girls pilots!!lilya is a famous and great lady with yekaterina.v. budanova too...i hear in the east front the girls soviet warriors were more cruel than the soviet men warriors in the ground fights!

Yeah, women were pretty vicious both on the ground and in the sky. They were probably as equal as the men, but the Germans probably didn't expect much from them at first. But that changed soon enough.