Friday 2010-06-04 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[Il2Pongo]

I think the cockpit weathering is fine, except for the ratty brown strip of paper on the right, it looks like it was recovered from a wreck that is 40 years old.
To me that cockpit looks like it is used but newish, which I think would be the default for 109es in the BOB.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by Il2Pongo

I think the cockpit weathering is fine, except for the ratty brown strip of paper on the right, it looks like it was recovered from a wreck that is 40 years old.
To me that cockpit looks like it is used but newish, which I think would be the default for 109es in the BOB.

I would think that a very thin coat of paint would be used for interiors. Weight is an issue. It wouldn't take much to scratch it if that's the case. I could be wrong ( - usually am!).
The buses where I live recently installed new ticket machines. They only had a thin coat of paint. After only a couple of weeks they were scuffed and scratched and looked ten years old.

[Romanator21]

The images are simply amazing. Everything is *perfect* The Heinkel is beautiful, and I can't wait to simply take a sight-seeing joy-ride in it across the channel.

[F16_Petter]

Originally Posted by major_setback

I would think that a very thin coat of paint would be used for interiors. Weight is an issue. It wouldn't take much to scratch it if that's the case. I could be wrong ( - usually am!).
The buses where I live recently installed new ticket machines. They only had a thin coat of paint. After only a couple of weeks they were scuffed and scratched and looked ten years old.

Well.. after 2 months would there be any paint left then?

@work our planes are used 4-6 flights per day (minimum) and after about a year they look like the screenshots.. BUT mostly on certain parts where the wear is "induced" by the pilot. Control collumn, switches, knobs etc. The rest of the wear comes by age not by direct cause of the pilot or techs.

Any paint is done with a minimum of one coat.
There are some exposed parts of panels etc that would at least have a primer paint as first layer aswell. However, deep "scratches" would expose bare metal if the cut was violent or caused by a sharp edge or hard material of some kind. Saving weight is probly more an issue when painting the external (whole aircraft). We dont paint our cockpits with more than one layer anyway.. it is sufficient.

Ive read some of the comments and this is my reply:
If your calculations are right, If the cockpits look like this just after a few weeks.. and there is never a "new plane" for very long.
how would they not look after a couple of months? Is there a reason why the paint would stop chipping after reaching a certain stage or=??

All im saying is that there is a difference between parts that the pilot operates and parts that he does not touch and is weared over time caused by other factors such as temperature, sunlight exposure, humidity etc.
And it would be FUN with perhaps three versions of a cockpit.

1. Brand New
2. "Runned in" (something like the screenhots we see today)
3. Deteriorated (something worse than the screenshots we see today)
4. Also canopies and windshields with a similar wear or visibility factor would be interesting.. (or not relly nice but realistic)
It doesnt have to be extreme, it could be just noticable and cause maybe just a little bit of less transparency.

Maybe not for SoW, but for the FUTURE

[Flanker35M]

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Gripens I assume Petter North or south? We do also paint the interior of the cockpit if required because the black paint is partially anti-glare and also prevents from white light coming thru the panels(not all are metal) thus would interfere with NVG. So imperative to keep the cockpit paint in check. This applies to the exterior and equipment bays as well, if left unpainted corrosion can hit pretty fast, and that is not what you want

Anyways. In the screenshot paint has chipped like it was badly applied. I think most areas that would be worn are around the attachment bolts of the intrument panel etc. But again these were war machines, not civilian cruisers and in the heat of the battle small details like chipped paint could slip thru and manpower focused on keeping the plane combat ready and air worthy.

[major_setback]

Interesting comparison:

I don't know if there is more wear on one shot, or if it's just the lighting. The wind-shield frame seems to have a different colour (green/black) at least.

[major_setback]

Quite amazing presentation video of the A2A B17.

Watch it in highest quality at Youtube for the best impression.

Thanks to BG-09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsPjn...ayer_embedded#

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[daHeld]

Nicely done aircraft!

But can you actually drop the bombs and blow something up in FS X?
If not, it could be as realisticly simulated as it might - I'm not interested.

[David603]

Gotta say, that B17 pit looks real nice, but the SoW Spitfire cockpit looks better. Perhaps its that you can put in more detail with a smaller pit, or maybe its the wear effects, which like Luthier said are better looking than a plan, mint condition effect, but anyway I like the look better.

Just imagine the Spitfire pit with the reflective glass like the Bf109 pit has

[Tempest123]

Yes, I agree 100%, if I pay money for a product I expect to be able to use it when, where and how I want, without restrictions, I have enough trouble with Itunes proprietary files. If the publisher requires me to be online I will not buy it, period. They get the unrestricted use of my hard earned income, so I should get the unlimited use of their product. Reeeeaallly hope SoW does not go down this road.

Originally Posted by csThor

Honestly: No game developer or publisher decides when my own PC has to be online. I may grant them the right to check the validity of my copy after installing it (or maybe once a month, after asking me for my permission to do so), but I will absolutely not tolerate a game which tries to force me to stay connected to some online server all the time. Because that, in my opinion, is the stealthy attempt to introduce pay-to-play even for offline games and I will most certainly not stuff my hard-earned € down some publisher's throat (not to mention that the marketing department would surely like to bombard me with tailor-made spam mails).

If SoW follows this trend then I have to bear the pain and not purchase it for I absolutely refuse to sign away my own rights as customer and PC admin.