Rebalancing of tanks needed!

[KnightFandragon]

I dont doubt the Jagdpanthers armor or gun, its no doubt very good but the rate at which tanks in this game get detracked it make it my last choice b/c once its detracked its completly screwed...much like the Turtle for the UK. thier gun moves as far left and right as its tracks +D If Detracking was harder and more rare I might actually buy it. I do like the Jagdpanther for its looks, armor, gun...but that traverse bugs me alot.....that is my only real complaint w/ it. I play mostly defensive w/ a slow advance so speed isnt a big factor w/ me....even if I did attack I prefer something that has good fire arc and can absorb damage like no other. I usually play in 450-600 pt games w/ 120 population I guess its called...

[Nikitns]

Originally Posted by KnightFandragon

I dont doubt the Jagdpanthers armor or gun, its no doubt very good but the rate at which tanks in this game get detracked it make it my last choice b/c once its detracked its completly screwed...much like the Turtle for the UK. thier gun moves as far left and right as its tracks +D If Detracking was harder and more rare I might actually buy it. I do like the Jagdpanther for its looks, armor, gun...but that traverse bugs me alot.....that is my only real complaint w/ it. I play mostly defensive w/ a slow advance so speed isnt a big factor w/ me....even if I did attack I prefer something that has good fire arc and can absorb damage like no other. I usually play in 450-600 pt games w/ 120 population I guess its called...

I prefer the elefant. It has much better armour than Jagdpanther and costs only a few points more. A Jagdpanther can be penetrated from front, Elefant is immune 2 that. Also Jagdpanthers are very weak against ISU-152's.

[KnightFandragon]

Originally Posted by Nikitns

I prefer the elefant. It has much better armour than Jagdpanther and costs only a few points more. A Jagdpanther can be penetrated from front, Elefant is immune 2 that. Also Jagdpanthers are very weak against ISU-152's.

Exactly, the Elefant is the only TD I buy, if any.

[Evilsausage]

I guess the Elefant can be a better when fighting in high income games. Since Jagdpanther has too low armor to battle IS-3s, T-29s effectivly.

However in most cases on normal income games i prefer Jagdpanther.
I have found slow tank destroyers to be way to easy to disable.
You can't use turretless units as damages sponges since they get easily detracked. And then renderd useless...
Whats so great about the JP is that its so fast. You can quickly go in for the kill and then move back again. Elefants are just too slow for that and they will just try to avoid it if they see it comming.

But i can agree on that the JP is easy target for artillery. Normaly avoid getting it if theres alot of arty spam going on...or if there are ISU-152s out.

[[SOE]No.Mam]

Originally Posted by Evilsausage

However in most cases on normal income games i prefer Jagdpanther.

i agree. i think jagdpanther is best (& sexiest ) tank ingame. when you use your jagdpanther carefully - no other tank have any change.

... but heavy arty or ISU-152 or HE from IS2/3 are deadly for jagdpanther.

[Nikitns]

Originally Posted by Evilsausage

I guess the Elefant can be a better when fighting in high income games. Since Jagdpanther has too low armor to battle IS-3s, T-29s effectivly.

However in most cases on normal income games i prefer Jagdpanther.
I have found slow tank destroyers to be way to easy to disable.
You can't use turretless units as damages sponges since they get easily detracked. And then renderd useless...
Whats so great about the JP is that its so fast. You can quickly go in for the kill and then move back again. Elefants are just too slow for that and they will just try to avoid it if they see it comming.

But i can agree on that the JP is easy target for artillery. Normaly avoid getting it if theres alot of arty spam going on...or if there are ISU-152s out.

Jagdpanthers don't exactly have an impressive reverse-speed. I usually see people use it in the same way as the elefant or other heavy tanks, which is from far back sniping over-eager tanks.

Though yes, I see your point very well. A Jagdpanther is very flexible, and in my experience harder 2 immobilize than an elefant.

I still almost always buy Elefants though, as the maps usually aren't that big.