Patch 4.10 - Development Updates by Daidalos Team

[bf-110]

And CW-21 was used by two AFs.NEI and China.
Wonder if someone can make a "what if" CW-21 USAAF skin.

The planes I guess Sprain mean might be the P-35 and P-43.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Sprain

Including the "CW-21" in 4.10 seems like nothing but an intentional insult.

Less than 100 were ever made and it was barely even a trivial footnote in WW2. Yet there are so many important American built planes that are glaringly absent. Planes that were built by the 1000's and participated in the most notable battles in history.

If Daidalos Team were releasing no new planes at all I could understand. But for them to put energy into creating a CW-21 looks like just a way of saying "We want to prove that we refuse to include American built planes".

For simmers who enjoy the Allied side of the Japan/America conflict, Daidalos Team is clearly running a biased show.

Have you bothered to find out why 'so many important American built planes .... are glaringly absent'? And why just American planes? WE all have our favourite planes we'd like to see added. The only thing that is clear here is your own obnoxious attitude. These guys are doing it for free remember.

Carry on TD. Even if you only release planes I've never heard of from now on, I'll still enjoy flying them.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by Sprain

Including the "CW-21" in 4.10 seems like nothing but an intentional insult.

Less than 100 were ever made and it was barely even a trivial footnote in WW2. Yet there are so many important American built planes that are glaringly absent. Planes that were built by the 1000's and participated in the most notable battles in history.

If Daidalos Team were releasing no new planes at all I could understand. But for them to put energy into creating a CW-21 looks like just a way of saying "We want to prove that we refuse to include American built planes".

For simmers who enjoy the Allied side of the Japan/America conflict, Daidalos Team is clearly running a biased show.

Third party modelers get to do whatever they want to do... Daidalos is just doing us a favour by including some additional community work that is out there.

[IceFire]

Enjoyed the video and the update. Thanks team! I love all of the little fixes and updates going into this as well. New bombrack for the 109 is one of those little things but it's really nice to see updated... tweaks to the 110 is great too... that plane sees heavy usage. Great

[Flying_Nutcase]

Congrats on the deal, and thanks for another tantalising vid. After a long absence, this sure is a great time to be getting back into Sturmi.

Thanks for the update TD and WTG on the contract. Feels like its almost time to take the new throttle quadrant out of the box

[Sprain]

Originally Posted by AndyJWest

Have you bothered to find out why 'so many important American built planes .... are glaringly absent'? And why just American planes? WE all have our favourite planes we'd like to see added. The only thing that is clear here is your own obnoxious attitude. These guys are doing it for free remember.

Carry on TD. Even if you only release planes I've never heard of from now on, I'll still enjoy flying them.

It's worth noting that you didn't at all disagree with my principle claim. But you did bother to include a personal attack.

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Sprain

It's worth noting that you didn't at all disagree with my principle claim. But you did bother to include a personal attack.

I'd say that "nothing but an intentional insult" looks like a personal attack on the TD team. Or have you got any evidence to back this up?

Yes, you claim that "important American built planes ... are glaringly absent", but you give no evidence that they were excluded because they were American. We know that there is a specific issue over Grumman aircraft, but that isn't TD's fault. Beyond this, which aircraft are you suggesting have been intentionally ignored?

In any case, TD are volunteers. They can model whatever they chose, within the limits imposed by the historical context and any contractual constraints they have with 1C:Maddox. It is open to anyone with the appropriate level of expertise to work with them, and I'm sure they will welcome new input.

[nearmiss]

The CW-21 stands for Curtis Wright US aircraft manufacturer.

There are so many aircraft now for IL2 I am amazed when people keep asking for more.

No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either. The IL2 is an air combat simulation genre, which means everything is about combat and mostly aircraft vs aircraft. In other words, if you fly all the weird stuff people are always asking for... you would be asking to just get shot down all the time.

If we could get an honest poll for online or offline aircraft; the same aircraft choices would probably prevail across the board for most everyone... especially if they want to survive in the missions.

[AndyJWest]

No one flys the odd-ball aircraft online, and I don't know of many that are interested to fly them in Offline in missions either

I'd have to disagree, Nearmiss. A section of the online community is content endlessly reenacting the same dogfights, but other IL-2 gamers like to explore new aircraft, new maps, new weapon systems and the rest. All credit to TD for feeding our addictions...