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05-11-2010, 02:07 AM
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Yes, you're right quite right Andy. Apologies for facetiousness. I just didn't like the tone of LukeFF's response.
Edit:: Ignoble cause: well, the Nazi cause was ignoble, but I can't apply that to each and every German soldier. Many thought they were fighting Bolshevism for Europe and believed they were doing the right thing. I am, by no means, a Nazi apologist and am very proud of my Grandfather's fight directly into the heart of Berlin. Last edited by Novotny; 05-11-2010 at 02:14 AM. 
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05-11-2010, 02:15 AM
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No, problem, Novotny. I'm not sure LukeFF was trying to be facetious, but I can see how it might be read this way. Personally, I'm more interested in the original posting. I've a vague recollection of seeing another version of this, many years back - and I don't think it was a German soldier in that version. I suspect the whole thing is apocryphal.
Edit--- "Many thought they were fighting Bolshevism for Europe" - well yes, this was the way they were expected to see it - the Bolsheviks/Jews (Nazi propaganda often conflated the two) as an alien invasion, an attack on 'European civilisation'. Utter nonsense. The 'Bolsheviks' (and their Stalinist successors) were as much a part of European history as the Nazis. It is tragic that good people can be suckered into fighting for bad causes, but it doesn't make the cause good. Last edited by AndyJWest; 05-11-2010 at 02:25 AM.
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05-11-2010, 02:20 AM
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I like the idea of the story if nothing else... I'd love to know if there is more historical background available.
Plus even if the story is false... with everything I've dealt with recently... achievable objectives sounds really nice. The little things keep you going sometime.
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05-11-2010, 04:16 PM
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an interesting story. I have one of a surivor as well. A classmate of mine and still today a neighbor ,whose father was of German ancestry. Born and raised in Russia, which at the time was not a good combination during WW2. His family lost everything and he was the only one to survive by living for two years in the wild ,stealing food where he could till he finally escaped to the west and eventualy made his way to Canada.
Somehow he survived and to this day is one of the toughest men I have ever met. God rest his soul.
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05-11-2010, 06:28 AM
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The facts... or maybe not.
This is the closest you can get to the facts...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/As-Far-Feet-...885916-5288508 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemens_Forell And yes I do think it has a lot to do with the work of the TD & SoW teams. Salutes. Last edited by Majo; 05-11-2010 at 06:32 AM. Reason: Additional information.
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