Friday 2010-05-07 Dev. update and Discussion Thread

[Novotny]

Not suggesting English is the world language at all: my point is that it's not Zorin's native language, and whilst his command of english is indeed superb, he may come across more bluntly than he intends.

He's a nice guy

[Foo'bar]

Originally Posted by Novotny

He's a nice guy

Indeed.

[Pierre@]

The early model of Pitot tube we are talking about, seen here on 3U+JT, of 9./ZG 26.
Although a Bf 110 E (the squared airscoop on the nose is clearly visible on the original photograph), this aircraft retained the "L-shaped" model, previously used on C and D (and maybe B) types.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Maybe you are right, it`s not easy to write down "only" informations. But to change such minor things like a pitot tube is easier than changing stuff in code or even finishing the game
I always say lets see how the final product will be, if we have a chance to update during development, ok it`s welcomed.

But sorry Zorins comment looked like nitpicking, maybe it was just an informaiton for Oleg

[Pierre@]

The Pitot tube model chosen by Oleg Maddox (...IMHO mistakenly, with due respect, for a Bf 110 C but I unfortunately don't have any "factory" proof, only a lot of photographic evidences...) is this one, straight and slimmer, fitted under the leading edge of the port wing, as seen on 3C+GS of 8./NJG 4:



According to John Vasco, about the Bf 110 E: "...during the production run, the pitot tube was changed from the original 'L' shape to a longer slimmer mast that protruded forward of the wing leading edge..."

[Skoshi Tiger]

I feel that we should lay the blame for this argument soley on the mangers, designers and workers of the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, who obviously can't follow the blueprints when making thier aircraft and felt that they need to play around with the design!

You'ld think that if you were going to change the design of something like a pitot tube (measuring airspeed is a reasonable fundimental aspect of aircaft operation) they would document it?

Of course the alied bombing may not haved helped, but you'ld think they'ld keep copies of important information in a number of places, or maybe they just didn't care? Obviously they did not forsee a time 70 years in the future where their lack of forsight would cause arguments!

cheers!

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

I feel that we should lay the blame for this argument soley on the mangers, designers and workers of the Bayerische Flugzeugwerke, who obviously can't follow the blueprints when making thier aircraft and felt that they need to play around with the design!

You'ld think that if you were going to change the design of something like a pitot tube (measuring airspeed is a reasonable fundimental aspect of aircaft operation) they would document it?

Of course the alied bombing may not haved helped, but you'ld think they'ld keep copies of important information in a number of places, or maybe they just didn't care? Obviously they did not forsee a time 70 years in the future where their lack of forsight would cause arguments!

cheers!

Well sorry, but no, if every picture and every manual for the period, plus all research material does show the correct pitot tube, antenna positions and trim tabs, there is no reason to blame anyone else but the guy who build the plane model. (And if there is still something not clear, why not ask the community of thousands of people who would help gladly?)

But anyway, it has been pointed out now and that is all I wanted to do. The necessary material can be found in the links I gave in my previous post and the rest is up to Oleg and team.

@Novotny and Foobar: Thanks for backing me up.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Sorry for my attempt at humour, I'm Australian and english is not considered our native language (by the English at least) Mate!

I went to that link and unfortunately am not interested in German aircaft enough to pay 30 euros check out the publications in person.

If you own them I'm sure the copyright laws will allow you to reproduce a small portion of the designs for academic discussion (as we're having here!). You never know, if they contain enough detail they may prompt the design team to purchase the said designs for inclusion into BoB or one of the early patches.

Cheers

and keep up the good fight!