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Originally Posted by FM_Von_Manstein
I think you misunderstood me... Obviously war was necessary, as Germany needed more natural resources and $. But Hitler hampered the war by making stupid decisions. The BoB for one was pointless, it accomplished nothing but killing Germany's best pilots. Sending more aid and troops to Africa would have been much more logical. Germany needed oil badly and the capture of the Middle East and Persia would have done that, and created a 2nd front for the USSR. Turkey could have also been forced into the axis powers if they were surrounded. They were already economic partners with Germany, and some Turks believed it would be wise to join the Axis powers but many feared Anglo-Soviet invasion.
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There is no point to debate the motivations of the war beeing needed as it was lead mainly by agressions and most of the politic was focused around confrontation. This is evident by the politics from Nazi members like Ribbentropp who was in charge regarding foreign affairs and the many different official or inofficial comments by Hitler himself and Nazi members.
War was not necessary. Only Hitler and his Nazi members made it necessary due to their stupid economical decisions and twised political ideas that the German population needed desperately "room in the east" at all cost to survive. But as said there is absolutely no way how Germany could have achieved its goals with the war and military force. Like I mentioned the only way how germany could have prevented a defeat is simply not to start the war at all and living in a peacefull coexistance with its neigbours. But that would have required sane politicans.
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Originally Posted by FM_Von_Manstein
LOL! Kid Stalin murdered +30 million of his own people. They're both ridiculously evil. And Soviets doesn't necessarily mean Russian. It's like Nazis. Not all Germans believed in Nazism, not all Russians were believed in Soviet ideology. If you knew anything about the suffering of the people in the Warsaw pact countries you'd probably dislike Soviets too.
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You dont really choose your words very carefully dont you?
It is very easy comparing the Nazi party with the Soviet system from outside. But historicaly there is more to it then just that. But we should leave it to that as that part alone can fill books of arguments and informations.
Fact is that the Sovietunion and its citizens have a different meaning compared to the simple Nazi for example. Hence why I think its a gross generalisation if you say something like "killing of soviets sounds good". It should also not really be that advicable to say the same for nazis. There is no black vs white. Many people which feelt as part of the Nazi or Soviet culture cant be simply idealised or classified. John Rabe or Oscar Schindler just to name some examples.
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