Friday 2010-03-05 Screenshots/Video and Discussion Thread - Page 13

kimosabi · #**121** 03-06-2010, 03:31 PM

The swastika marking on German planes is not a problem in IL-2, you could easily get that feature if you really wanted to, so why should there be in SoW?

Chivas · #**122** 03-06-2010, 03:36 PM

We don't need a dedicated website at this time. What would a dedicated website provide that we aren't already getting. Its too early to start advertising the game to the general public and a waste of time, money, and effort until it is.

Also the swastika can be easily added by modders, so its exclusion, is just an overreaction to a non-existent problem.

csThor · #**123** 03-06-2010, 03:51 PM

You couldn't get the swastika in the international version of Il-2 - only after some folks fiddled with external programs. In Il-2 itself there was no way to activate the swastika and the hakaristi and there still isn't a way to do this. Even the russian version had a switch in the conf.ini (the HakenAllowed=1 line) which wasn't there by default.

Again - historical accuracy in this case is irrelevant as long as Maddox Games makes just one international version, which in this case has to obey §86 of the german penal code and totally omit any swastika (and any optional activation of it).

Richie · #**124** 03-06-2010, 04:43 PM

What I hate is when they put black blocks or crosses on the tails of aircraft. They should just leave them blank.

Lucas_From_Hell · #**125** 03-06-2010, 05:49 PM

csThor, but let's take the example of Foobar's skins.

He's German, and makes historically accurate skins (so, with swastikas). To avoid any legal problem, he leaves a disclaimer at the installation. I've never heard of any issue involving his skins.

Couldn't this be done with Storm of War?

Foo'bar · #**126** 03-06-2010, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucas_From_Hell

Couldn't this be done with Storm of War?

Wrong question to wrong person. Oleg will do it right within legal matters. However, the last word will have the publisher - if not even 1C will. Relax and calm down. MG will do it right.

AndyJWest · #**127** 03-06-2010, 06:02 PM

If 1C:Maddox wish to put Swastikas on German aircraft, I'm sure they will seek legal advice, and if they are in any doubt, err on the side of caution. I'd have thought there are more important issues for them to be concerned with at present, and I'm also sure that third-party software will be able to add them for those who want it.

If you think the law in Germany or elsewhere is wrong on this issue (I've got mixed feelings myself) , you are free to advocate change, but I don't really think it is reasonable to expect a commercial company to fight your political battles for you.

Richie · #**128** 03-06-2010, 06:26 PM

We can just solve all of this by just using custom skins just like we always have so why are we really talking about this? People like me who want them on their German planes for movies can just search for custom skins after a few days. I'm sure all of the skinners will be in heaven over this sim. Unless I'm misunderstanding and SOW will be able to detect a swastika on a custom skin LOLOL.

nearmiss · #**129** 03-06-2010, 06:27 PM

I really don't understand all this discussion about swastika

There are several IL2 utilities that place swastika on aircraft now. I'm sure with SOW similar utilities will be created.

Oleg will not put swastika on aircraft, at least that is my understanding from Il2. He would have none of it.

ECV56_Lancelot · #**130** 03-06-2010, 07:42 PM

Its sad how a nice friday update became a pointless discussion about what the developer should be showing and swastikas.

Please, if you want the game come with swastikas, or talk about if it should have them, or not, or the german and any other country law, why don't you guys start another threat about the subject and leave this for talking about the update.
Same about if you are not happy about what its being shown.

Please, let those that are interestend on the update, enjoy and ask about it.

S!