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#61
02-03-2010, 02:52 PM
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I did say in an earlier thread that the issue of the Xbox patch may have to be fought with a 'stick' and a 'carott' strategy. I would support the patch in the form of a DLC.
However, if additional pressure is needed then I would suggest that the issue is elevated to a wider argument that affects all gamers and one that should be discussed within the industry. MS and 505 use the statement 'committed to improving the game play experience for its customers'. Their mission statement so to speak! Bearing in mind that MS grant the licence is it acceptable that MS take no further interest in the product (once it has satisfied the initial QA) or have any legal contract with the publisher? 505 have also used the same statement in their last reply. Yet, it is quite clear that this is not entirely accurate given their actions. It seems that this could happen at any time in the future and with any publisher. Neither MS or Sony (who grant the licenses) can prevent a publisher from showing preference to one console over another regarding title updates that improve gameplay. Should there be some form of licensing requirement that all publishers must legally abide by to prevent this happening again? As a consumer group we have to trust the publisher. Unfortunately - trust alone is not enough! I suggest that we move this argument to the industry through the media that represents it. BOP is an excellent example of a title that MS claim they cannot interfere with as they are not the publisher. How is the consumer protected by this and is it right? How can MS justify the use of ' committed to improving the gameplay experience for its customers' then simply state that it cannot interfere with a publishers decision to improve 'quality of gameplay' for one console over another? Use the argument and this experience to one that could affect all gamers and present it to the gaming media for their opinions. Last edited by SEE; 02-03-2010 at 03:08 PM. 
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#62
02-03-2010, 04:22 PM
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MS cant do anything precisely because its already been through their QC and they qualified it as fit for release. All 3 companies have missed these issues. And unfortunatley ms cant force a patch unless a serious showstopper is found but in those cases theyd probably waive the fee. Even though the patch is done 505 would still have to pay an amount of money (your guess how much is as good as mine) which they obviously dont feel they want to pay.
They dont seem to realise if this title is properly supported consumers will have more confidence to buy their next product instead of feeling taken advantage off and will more dubious about the next one. The kicker is the devs get most of the blame from most people becuase they don't know about the publisher/developer/platform holder relationship.
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#63
02-03-2010, 05:29 PM
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The fact is that many games rely on subsequent patches being released. Console manufacturers QA are therefore not infallible. Games are often rushed into production. I would argue that where a title has gameplay experience improved for one console and, there are no technical limitations that would prevent a similar one for other consoles, that part of any licence agreement is to ensure that a publisher commits its obligation to all consumers across all platforms. This is the fundamental issue that the industry needs to resolve otherwise it will happen again and again! Gamers represent a multi-million dollar market with absolutely no rights when it comes to quality assurance.
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02-03-2010, 05:33 PM
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I completely agree.
I can forgive the release sooner patch later ethos if they actually put the patches out, other wise its just skinflint and lazy.
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#65
02-08-2010, 08:11 AM
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So what's the chances of any news this week?
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#66
02-08-2010, 10:33 PM
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Can we do like a video talking about the companies that screw alot of people "meaning all this issue of the game" and post it in youtube and forums to see what happen. I ask of course about legal issues for posting something talking about companies and there reputation??.
I know youtube is free so is there no legal issue wy dont doit. I could do the video if you can send a good scrip about this. dont know just a thought. pardon writting not my first one. so anyways, what you guys say? Crazyowl.
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#68
02-12-2010, 05:26 PM
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wtf!!!???they already said it was made
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#69
02-12-2010, 05:34 PM
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cut and past
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I can not get into the yuplay forum right now, could you please cut and past what has been said? Thank you.
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#70
02-12-2010, 05:40 PM
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** The post in question from Anton** Hi guys. Unfortunately, no good news. Publisher thinks that it is not commercially reasonable to create, QA, and release title update for X360. Releasing PS3 update has not significant impact to sells, and it costs much. DLC was also not very popular (not popular at all). In addition, I was told to communicate with gamers only via publisher's PR department - that's why I am being quiet silent. Nothing we can do here with X360 version itself - we've already funded PS3 update from our own pockets (and we do not even benefit from potential sells increase). So, to make it sweeter we've done the only thing we could done - we'll provide huge (50%) discount on PC version Wings of Prey for consoles users. I know that's not the same (some of console audience even do not have PCs or not gaming PCs), but PC-version is the only published by us. I'll provide way of getting discount soon (in a few hours), here. ---------------------------------------- **EDIT** For those of you with a capable PC, DO IT!!!!! You'll be picking up a bargain that's head & shoulders above BoP. (Fact I'm afraid) Last edited by Houndstone Hawk; 02-12-2010 at 05:45 PM.
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