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Old 02-12-2010, 07:40 AM
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Pilot, who is not experienced, always flies far from the edge of safe flight envelope, if he is afraid of mistakes. Pilot, who is experienced, tries to fly on the edge of safe flight envelope, if he sees the need. Very experienced pilot can fly in whole flight envelope including critical regions. Mistakes are part of online play and if you make "safety" limits, inexperienced pilots will be able to enjoy the same performance as experienced ones, but without fear of flying mistakes. Looks weird.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:42 AM
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Pilot, who is not experienced, always flies far from the edge of safe flight envelope, if he is afraid of mistakes. Pilot, who is experienced, tries to fly on the edge of safe flight envelope, if he sees the need. Very experienced pilot can fly in whole flight envelope including critical regions. Mistakes are part of online play and if you make "safety" limits, inexperienced pilots will be able to enjoy the same performance as experienced ones, but without fear of flying mistakes. Looks weird.
Not enjoy the same performance. They cannot fly in critical regions and take risks. Worse performance but safer.
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:43 AM
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I think that the list of servers should be filtered by difficulty, I also want to play with people at my same level ,realistic 100%
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Old 02-12-2010, 07:56 AM
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I think that the list of servers should be filtered by difficulty, I also want to play with people at my same level ,realistic 100%
Would you be able to go through a long startup procedure, different for every plane, bind controls for all kinds of features (maybe twice as much as now) including fuel primer pumps and propeller blade pitch angles for every engine, individual radiator flaps for the coolant of every engine, and individual oil cooler flap for every engine, individual fuel primer pump lever for each engine, individual buttons for changing fuel tanks, for pumping fuel between tanks, manual fuel pump, manual oxygen controls, manual selection of engine start power source (including a button for switching the aircraft battery between each of the engines for start).

As you can see, even people like you and me, with G940, can probably not handle all those things, because it is too complicated if we want to learn more than one plane, with all the keyboard binds we have to use and so on.

If you want to force people to have to bind all those things, and learn to use them, then it will divide the pilots when it is just unecessary. Even if some of those things above are done automatically for some pilots it does not affect the gameplay for the others. And that is why this proposal is useful - they can still fly together, at quite high levels of realism.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:04 AM
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Yes, MikkOwl - no difficulty mixing. There's no such thing as "a bit pregnant" . And I stand by my words: Shoulder-shooting and the likes are not motivated by score issues but simply a sign for a lack of manners and a faulty attitude.
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Old 02-12-2010, 08:12 AM
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Yes, MikkOwl - no difficulty mixing. There's no such thing as "a bit pregnant" . And I stand by my words: Shoulder-shooting and the likes are not motivated by score issues but simply a sign for a lack of manners and a faulty attitude.
If there was no score given to them by being the last to hit an enemy, would they still do it? They would not. Assuming that this assertion is correct (I am certain it is), the conclusion should be that their motivation is to get a higher score, and their lack of manners is what allows them to go that far.

And you seriously want the system to forbid people from turning off their speedbar, icons and ability to set their fuel tank manually even if it is not mandatory for the rest to do so? What motivation do you have for that? I just cannot understand why it is in any way a bad thing to permit one guy to choose to pump fuel between tanks manually even when others prefer to use aids to automate that specific feature (as an example). It doesn't affect anyone but himself. And he himself would probably find himself without servers to play on if he insisted that no one be allowed to automate aspects of the fuel management of their aircraft, without any real gain - messing with those systems only take a matter of seconds and probably don't need to be touched in a dogfight anyway.
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