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IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

View Poll Results: Would you pay for a XBOX 360 DLC/patch?
YES: 22 66.67%
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Old 02-02-2010, 05:48 PM
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or is that something only Microsoft can fix? I'm really not OK with PAYING for an XBOX patch. That would be like buying a brand new car with obvious steering problems, and then having the car dealer tell me I have to pay to have it fixed.
Only MS can change the deadzone. It's on the console not the game.
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:07 PM
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Only MS can change the deadzone. It's on the console not the game.
Thanks stealth. Does anyone have any info on whether MS is doing something about the problem, or are we left to wander in the wilderness like we are with the IL2 Xbox patch?
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Old 02-02-2010, 06:12 PM
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probably not tbh. with only 2 serious fligt games available. I sent major nelson a message when i saw him playing il2 on his blog but suprise suprise i didnt get a reply lol
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Old 02-02-2010, 11:33 PM
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Can't really vote. Needs more options. I would NOT pay for a patch. That is something that should never be a cost. A patch fixes faults in the original product, so I don't think they could legally charge us.

Its up to the company who produced the game whether they want to also add/improve on things at the same time, but they can't charge for it if it is something that everybody who has bought the game will need if they want to go online.

DLC on the other hand I will buy depending on content and price.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:33 AM
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Can't really vote. Needs more options. I would NOT pay for a patch. That is something that should never be a cost. A patch fixes faults in the original product, so I don't think they could legally charge us.

Its up to the company who produced the game whether they want to also add/improve on things at the same time, but they can't charge for it if it is something that everybody who has bought the game will need if they want to go online.

DLC on the other hand I will buy depending on content and price.
Pope, I should have been a bit more explicit in what I believe may be the only solution to our dilemma:

It's simple, basically; No patch - or - a DLC with the patch - Yes, I know its wrong, Yes, I know it is not fair, but unfortunately life is not fair, and if that is the choice presented to you...what would you do?

I personally love this game enough to put up the money - I do not expect everyone to agree with me, some may say, the hell with it, I going back to MW2 and not looking back, I would fully understand your decision, but for me, if $10 gets me a patch and a extra plane or two...I'm in.
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Old 02-03-2010, 05:07 AM
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Pope, I should have been a bit more explicit in what I believe may be the only solution to our dilemma:

It's simple, basically; No patch - or - a DLC with the patch - Yes, I know its wrong, Yes, I know it is not fair, but unfortunately life is not fair, and if that is the choice presented to you...what would you do?

I personally love this game enough to put up the money - I do not expect everyone to agree with me, some may say, the hell with it, I going back to MW2 and not looking back, I would fully understand your decision, but for me, if $10 gets me a patch and a extra plane or two...I'm in.
Thats what I mean. The two things cannot go together. You can't have a title update including DLC.
1. because there is a size limit I believe for patching and DLC would go way over that.
2. They cannot charge to fix a flaw in the original product.
3. Everybody playing online has to have the latest version of a game so what would happen to the people who refused to buy the DLC/patch? They'd be screwed unable to play online at all.

Title Updates and DLC are always separate things. Updates change the way the game works, replacing some of the game coding from the disc. DLC never includes anything that changes the actuall game, it only adds extra modes, maps, models or sp campaines.
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:32 PM
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Thats what I mean. The two things cannot go together. You can't have a title update including DLC...(copied below)
That’s what I mean. The two things cannot go together. You can't have a title update including DLC.

1. Because there is a size limit I believe for patching and DLC would go way over that.

- Good point, but we may be talking about more then a “DLC”, see (3.) below.

2. They cannot charge to fix a flaw in the original product.

- Apparently companies can do whatever they please, and still get big bonuses (The American Financial industry comes to mind).

3. Everybody playing online has to have the latest version of a game so what would happen to the people who refused to buy the DLC/patch? They'd be screwed unable to play online at all.

- This is a real good point that I did not consider. This may have to be a “New Release” or “Upgrade”, as in a Birds of Prey 2.0 or something of that nature, and yes, that would split the MP community, but considering you can buy BoP (1.0) for around $30, it would be well worth buying an upgrade of $10 or so, in total, at $40, it would still be a bargain now that most new games sell for $60+. So 505 will get some money and we will get the patch and some planes, it’s a win-win situation. Again, I’m just trying to come to some conciliation that will get us the patch in the shortest time possible, because what I believe will happen is that we will not get the patch and have to wait a year for the sequel, and that is only if they decide to make one, a long shot at this point.

Title Updates and DLC are always separate things. Updates change the way the game works, replacing some of the game coding from the disc. DLC never includes anything that changes the actual game; it only adds extra modes, maps, models or sp campaigns.
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Old 02-03-2010, 01:55 AM
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Now, if the DLC included more planes and cockpits, oh say maybe an avro lancaster or even a mosquito (its not the question "Can you put it in their?" its more "Why didn't you do it yet?"). When people think of bombing in Europe, the think more towards Lancasters and Mosquito's and even the JU-88. Not an A-20 or Bleinhelm. B-17...well thats a bit more global. So i would pay yes...if it had a worth while plane in it. I think all of us can agree, a Lancaster and a Mosquito and maybe a P-40 is the way to go. As for axis, fix up the 190 and add a JU-88 and thats worthy of my 20 bucks anyday of the week. agreed?
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Old 02-03-2010, 04:34 AM
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Motorcyclist do it all the time......

They know that when they buy a OEM bike that it isn't running as good as it could or should do.

So they buy a kit to remove the power sapping cat converter or just replace the whole exhaust system with a louder and safer one, re-chip the fuel injection / re-jet or fit bigger carbs, remove the air intake silencer and, after much fettling, their bike performs as it should do.

Cars are the same.
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Old 02-03-2010, 06:38 AM
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pay for dlc (mappack,more planes) ok.
pay for a patch, never...
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