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Old 01-25-2010, 01:09 PM
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Hmm..would be nice to try IL-2 out in 3D..but not gonna buy a nVidia for that Completely happy with my ATI 5870HD. Gotta dig up more on this
edimensional glasses and more importatnly edimensional drivers still work with ATI cards. Or so they claim. I think they use a line interlacing scheme that just isn't as good as the nvidia system though?

One other thing stereo vision can look like crap if you have a lot of ghosting because you have the wrong set up (such as an old CRT or LCD monitor with <100Hz or simply with slow switching pixels). Thats is where in the past stereo 3D has got a bad rep from. On the right system, a ghosting free system, it looks amazing though.

From my research to date the best LCD TV (completely ghosting free) is not the default option Nvidia sell with their glasses but the Mitsubishi WD-60737 60" Home Theater TV. That's what I plan to get.
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:57 PM
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Thank you Rodney for the info. Will look into this. I can upgrade my current 24" flat to a 120Hz 22" screen..maybe won't be missing those 2" there..
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Old 01-26-2010, 12:58 PM
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Thank you Rodney for the info. Will look into this. I can upgrade my current 24" flat to a 120Hz 22" screen..maybe won't be missing those 2" there..
Note that while any 100Hz or greater CRT will work with the Nvidia drivers only certain LCDs will work with it because for the LCD monitors there is a special plug thing that needs to plug into the LCD monitor I believe to control the timing or something. Unless nvidia or the manufacturer vouches for it being 3D ready it may not work with the nvidia system.

On the other hand if you are going the edimensional route with an ATI card then edimensional glasses + ATI card will probably work with any LCD.

I can't vouch for the compatability of the edimensional universal driver though. For example I know that now nvidia no longer support edimensional glasses with their stereoscopic driver, edimensional will still sell the glasses to nvidia card owners and tell people on their web site to just use their universal driver. They fail to inform people that their universal driver does not work on any late model nvidia card with any operating system after XP but will still take their money. Only when you try to install the universal driver does it inform you that it doesnt run on vista/windows 7 for nvidia.

Point is I know edimensional have much better compatabilty with their driver and ATI or at least have had in the past but from previous experience wouldn't trust them to tell you if ATI compatability also became broken.
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Old 01-31-2010, 03:21 PM
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After some further searching I found some 3d flight sim videos on youtube. I'm only watching them using red green filter glasses, but with hd and full screen the effect is still very impressive.


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Old 02-01-2010, 09:03 PM
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That's interesting that the videos have two images side-by-side when the they're embedded in this page, but they're red-green overlaid when I watch them on youtube.com...

When they're side-by-side, you can cross your eyes (like the old Magic Eye books) to watch them in color-correct 3D, which is pretty cool. I've tried to get friends to try it with other side-by-side 3D images and it never seems to work with anyone else...

I wonder if any drivers'll ever come out that will let us play games cross-eyed... I know I'd try it at least once.
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Old 02-05-2010, 01:20 PM
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Good find. Those are nice samples for people who want to have a feel for how flightsims/games look in S-3D. As I mentioned on a post above, you can also play with any DirectX 9+ games with either iZ3D driver or Nvidia driver for free.

With proper polarized or LCD shutterglasses/compatible monitor the colors will be in full palette and depth + convergence will be fully adjustable making the effect much much better.



[QUOTE=blades96;140730]After some further searching I found some 3d flight sim videos on youtube. I'm only watching them using red green filter glasses, but with hd and full screen the effect is still very impressive.

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Old 02-05-2010, 02:56 PM
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Just for fun

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0045888/

House of Wax 3D movie release in 1953

The technology has gone nowhere new.

The same way they did it then = the same way they do it now

I really have no idea why, but I'g guess 3d has never added much to entertainment.

I wouldn't get too excited about this, just a way to get twice as much for a monitor and $200 for a pair of strange glasses.

Seriously, I'm sure alot could be done for imaging into the realm of 3D. I just don't think the old red eye and blue eye thing is the answer.

Even if the little electronic window shade glasses are tweaking what you see. The glasses are just doing a red/blue switcharoo.

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Old 02-05-2010, 05:23 PM
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Avatar has revolutionized S-3D movie with new tech. ie, RealD and polarised glasses (IMAX uses LCD shutterglasses) bringing full colors, non ghosting, good depth images to audience.

PC gaming has long been using similar technologies, ie polarised and shutter glasses, providing even better quality S-3D images than what Avatar can: adjustable brightness and convergence/separation on the fly.

Nowadays, anaglyph (Red/Blue) glasses are fit only for demo purpose because they're cheap.
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