IL2 Birds of Prey: Hints, Tips, and FAQ's Thread

[Mage_016]

Originally Posted by Yakoff

Like many others here, I'm bound and determined to only play this game on sim, although I fudge a little and use the HUD instead of the real cockpit. I just completed the Campaign portion and will prepare for grief from Free Hunt on Single Mission . I have a decent 26" HD monitor, but I still have great difficulty distinguishing friendly fighters from enemies. If I'm not sure, I usually give a short burst and see if I get the "Check your aim" message. I should probably bone up on my plane recognition skills.

Lol I'm using same tactic. Studying all those planes are so waste of time

[carcamagno]

I m new and I have two questions

1) tell me about "a couple" of models of joistick ( not too muche technologik ..better if a little "vintage" ) that "fit" whit a real simulator as Sturmovik do,..?!?! I have to purchase ona... or do you thin that xbox joy pad is better than whatever joistick??

2) if i have to turn closer and quikly i have to reduce the relative speed or not ? and to make a quikl turn is better useing Flap in attak mode??

[juz1]

Originally Posted by carcamagno

I m new and I have two questions

1) tell me about "a couple" of models of joistick ( not too muche technologik ..better if a little "vintage" ) that "fit" whit a real simulator as Sturmovik do,..?!?! I have to purchase ona... or do you thin that xbox joy pad is better than whatever joistick??

2) if i have to turn closer and quikly i have to reduce the relative speed or not ? and to make a quikl turn is better useing Flap in attak mode??

welcome to the forum...

2 sticks for xbox ...the AV8R (02)- cheap($60US), readily available or Ace edge/Hori ex-Very good but very expensive ($200US) unless you luck out on a secondhand one. Both apparently have a small deadzone issue and more importantly no landing brake assigned until a patch comes (if it comes).
Personally I have an AV8r and I love it-others don't.

Combat flaps allow you to throw around the plane better, turn radius is (partly) determined by speed yes ( and obviously the plane!)

Others here will give you more detail...enjoy
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Landing Master trophy tips. This trophy requires 50 landings in realistic mode in Capture Airfields. First and foremost, use the PO2. It is perfect and will net the trophy in a 30 minute session with a friend who is looking for the trophy also. Practice landings in practise mode first so you can get right to it when you get a partner. Use Hawkinge or another really long runway. Berlin is good. Don't use the short, grass strips. Like stalingrad.

The PO-2 will land 3 to 4 times in one pass! Come in really slow and try to land as close to end of the runway as you can. You DO NOT have to come to a full stop to get credit for a landing. There is a blue icon that turns on in the upper middle of the tv screen, a plane with tire tracks under it, when you have succeeded in landing. It comes on BEFORE you have stopped! As soon as it pops on, give it a little gas to pick up speed and back to 0 throttle. Back on the stick and the wheels will just barely come off the ground, then land again. You will get another landing icon. Repeat this all the way down the runway and I have managed up to 4 landings a pop. Bingo!!!!!!

[kozzm0]

Originally Posted by lost cause

Landing Master trophy tips. This trophy requires 50 landings in realistic mode in Capture Airfields. First and foremost, use the PO2. It is perfect and will net the trophy in a 30 minute session with a friend who is looking for the trophy also. Practice landings in practise mode first so you can get right to it when you get a partner. Use Hawkinge or another really long runway. Berlin is good. Don't use the short, grass strips. Like stalingrad.

The PO-2 will land 3 to 4 times in one pass! Come in really slow and try to land as close to end of the runway as you can. You DO NOT have to come to a full stop to get credit for a landing. There is a blue icon that turns on in the upper middle of the tv screen, a plane with tire tracks under it, when you have succeeded in landing. It comes on BEFORE you have stopped! As soon as it pops on, give it a little gas to pick up speed and back to 0 throttle. Back on the stick and the wheels will just barely come off the ground, then land again. You will get another landing icon. Repeat this all the way down the runway and I have managed up to 4 landings a pop. Bingo!!!!!!

don't forget to bring bombs to ruin the runway with like everyone always does... the po-2 is one of the most accurate bombers

if you play enough CTA you will see everyone bombs the hell out of the same runway they plan to land on

[F14 TOMCAT 204]

too bad the Po-2 can barely top 80mph

For sure don't pick the two runway CTA scenario. It will take the PO2 20 minutes to get to one of them!

I never realized that bombing the runway put craters in it. Are you sure about that? Besides, I'm talking about a partner or partners playing for the same trophy. Not really "playing" CTA.

[AV 1611]

Yeah me too... however I enjoy studying those planes!

[Lashenden]

Evening all.
Just got BoP and I'm still getting used to it after many years of merged FB/PF enjoyment on the PC. I have a question and a comment:

I assume the Saitek Aviator joystick and the other one (which I'd never heard of until today!) are the ONLY joysticks that will work on an Xbox? Plugged in my old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro PC stick, but nothing seemed to happen. Should the Xbox automatically recognise a suitable USB joystick in preference to the wireless gamepad? I need to sort this ASAP as I find flying using the gamepad just...aarrrrgh...Throttle and rudder on the same button; blimey.

Secondly, for discussion, am I right to think the environment in BoP is a taste of what we should expect in BoB Storm of War if it ever appears? It's an improvement FB for sure, but I'm really a bit disappointed. Rather like another contributor to this thread, I flew east from Dover, looking for Dungeness, the Romney Marsh and Rye where I live, and found no accurate detail at all. With smaller battlefields like BoB, you navigate as much with landmarks as with map and compass. That's certainly what happened in 1940. Given the years of discussion on Oleg Maddox Il2 forum about this subject, losing that detail seems a shame. But is it that important to anyone who doesn't live in Kent or Volgagrad?

However, it's great to see that the sim community is as lively on the xbox version as it has been on the PC. Lets hope there's a way for all this activity to feed into patches and add-ons .

[Flagrum_3]

Originally Posted by Lashenden

Evening all.
Just got BoP and I'm still getting used to it after many years of merged FB/PF enjoyment on the PC. I have a question and a comment:

I assume the Saitek Aviator joystick and the other one (which I'd never heard of until today!) are the ONLY joysticks that will work on an Xbox? Plugged in my old Logitech Extreme 3D Pro PC stick, but nothing seemed to happen. Should the Xbox automatically recognise a suitable USB joystick in preference to the wireless gamepad? I need to sort this ASAP as I find flying using the gamepad just...aarrrrgh...Throttle and rudder on the same button; blimey.

Secondly, for discussion, am I right to think the environment in BoP is a taste of what we should expect in BoB Storm of War if it ever appears? It's an improvement FB for sure, but I'm really a bit disappointed. Rather like another contributor to this thread, I flew east from Dover, looking for Dungeness, the Romney Marsh and Rye where I live, and found no accurate detail at all. With smaller battlefields like BoB, you navigate as much with landmarks as with map and compass. That's certainly what happened in 1940. Given the years of discussion on Oleg Maddox Il2 forum about this subject, losing that detail seems a shame. But is it that important to anyone who doesn't live in Kent or Volgagrad?

However, it's great to see that the sim community is as lively on the xbox version as it has been on the PC. Lets hope there's a way for all this activity to feed into patches and add-ons .

There is another thread Called "Tested PC sticks on PS3" and a member with the same stick seems to have it working although he is using the PS3 not the xbox as the PS3 has had an software update which I believe allows for more sticks to work....Xbox users apparently are still waiting for an update at this time.

As for your second statement I agree with you, a map of such a small area should be more accurate for many reasons including the one you mention.I would tend to believe or trust that Oleg and team would give us a more detailed map as they have in the past.

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