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Old 12-19-2009, 02:39 PM
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Well the answer wil mostly depend if u wanna do all quest or you go for days only?? Actuay shttera and nameless are optional very much, and a lot quest needs coming back to island so you must consider to find the most optimum way .. i think only umkas is the one which u dont have to revisit (if u have necrocall)

troll spawn very much randomly .. dont know sure place .. the best is to check with save scanner(mod section of the forum)
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Old 12-19-2009, 02:52 PM
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Yes, I want to do all the quests, to boost the score with no losses, basically my strategy will be to block a unit with stone wall so it wont move, and use phantoms on inquisitors/paladins to ress, and use the +rage ability from inquisitors to boost mana at the end of the fight so I can use sacrifice/ressurect everytime when it is needed, and to end a battle with full mana and rage so I can instantly start a next battle, not to mention that the dragon will level really quick, due to the abuse of mana accelerator/treasure find etc.

This strategy should really pay off once I will get sacrifice, and mana regeneration each turn talent, and invincible monsters should be no problem then.

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Old 12-19-2009, 04:13 PM
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Stonewall wont block them, they wil destroy it ... it worked for me with mage but on normal .. on impossible i doubt it.

And tresure hunt mana accelator wont make your dragon level up qickly .. its completly opposite, they give low exp ..they are the worst for lvling ...
i was using like that and my dragon ended the game with level 35 .. while hero was 57 ..

Abut the way .. i strongly suggest writed down all quest which needs a travel and make your journey based on it.

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Old 12-19-2009, 05:49 PM
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Stonewall is awsome, finished the game once already on impossible with a warrior, but there is a drawback = stone wall starts to be effective once it gets about 2000 hp, I remember that once my stone wall had 5000 hp, it could hold 250 veteran orcs for a few turns, and that is awsome for ranged units.

But what I mean by using stone wall is once the enemy army is destroyed completely, and has 1 unit left, then block it with stone wall and weaken it as much as you can, so for instance lets say 25 bears blocked by a stone wall with 5000 hp = infinite number of turns, and you can ress/sacricife all you want, so lets say you lost 80% of your army, you will be able to ress them all, although it will take some turns, the most important thing is to keep the rage/mana flowing with calm rage/the +rage from inquisitors, the good thing about that is you can phantom 1 inquisitor and he will have like 3x +rage spell

Also, I think mana accelerator in my opinion is a dragon leveler, although I do not know the equasion which gives exp per rage used, but If for instance I use 1x dragon dive which has 2 turns rest, and 2x mana accelerator which has 1 turn rest, shouldn't the exp be more or less the same ? or the mana accelerator exp gain is totally low ?

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I have already posted it is some thread - it is for max level, but you can get a decent idea which are the most "profitable" to use. Well, with the restructuring the forum, I'm not certain where it is, so...

Crushing blow - 34 Xp
Treasure Searcher - 17 Xp
Ball of Lightning - 46 Xp
Mana Accelerator - 29 Xp
Mystic Egg - 44 Xp
Stone Wall - 39 Xp
Dragon Dive - 28 Xp
Fiery Phantoms - 37 Xp
Lava Call - 40 Xp
So 2x Mana accelerator = 29x2 = 58 exp, 1x Dragon dive = 28 exp

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Old 12-19-2009, 09:47 PM
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Can't help you, sorry. I can win on Impossible with zero losses, but I am on day 20 already and only about 2/3 of the way through the game.
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Old 12-20-2009, 09:50 AM
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I am on impossible in day 12 with 2/3game cleared but i did a lot re- traveling to fight only undead stacks to free moro .. i could get down these number by few days for sure

and amidamaru : you cant realy rely on this calculation as far as i rember damage skills alos give exp for l kiling damging i think. I just know that treasure and mana accelerator abusing realy sucks for leveling. I just played like that and got miserable lvl 35 ..

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Old 12-20-2009, 01:16 PM
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One of the reasons those skills suck for leveling is that the other part of the formula is "X (enemy total leadership / your total leadership.)" With your strategy, the main abuse phase comes when your opponent has almost no troops, hence almost no leadership. Meaning each time you spam it, you'll get less than 1 exp. If the game rounds up, you'll get 1.
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