Friday 2009-11-13 Screenshots AND Discussion Thread

[=KAG=Bersrk]

Originally Posted by mazex

"The Luftwaffe had embarked on the battle with 237 serviceable Bf 110s. 223 were lost in the course of it".

Talk about loss ratio!

/Mazex

Hahaha ok lets talk about it.

When finally comparing the scores by Bf 109 and Bf 110 units as mentioned above with the estimated true losses by each side for the period July-October 1940 it turns out that in approximate figures the authentic victories versus actual air battle losses where:

Spitfire 550 victories to 329 losses – a ratio of 1,7:1
Hurricane 750 victories to 603 losses – a ratio of 1,2:1
Bf 109 780 victories to 534 losses – a ratio of 1,5:1
Bf 110 340 victories to 196 losses – a ratio of 1,7:1

In October the Bf 110 units even had a ratio of 3:1 while the Bf 109 units dropped to 1,4:1.

Bf110 C-1 - 195 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-2 - 359 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-4 - 155 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-5 - 100 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-6 - 12 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-7 - 39 aircrafts built,

Bf110 D-0 - 83 aircrafts built,.
Bf110 D-0/D-1 - 21 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-0/D-3 - 12 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-0/D-4 - 6 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-2 - 73 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-3 - 254 aircrafts built,

P.S. Tell me please, what Geschwader of Luftwaffe was the first who got 500 air-to-air victories, and when it happened?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by =KAG=Bersrk

Hahaha ok lets talk about it.



Bf110 C-1 - 195 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-2 - 359 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-4 - 155 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-5 - 100 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-6 - 12 aircrafts built,
Bf110 C-7 - 39 aircrafts built,

Bf110 D-0 - 83 aircrafts built,.
Bf110 D-0/D-1 - 21 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-0/D-3 - 12 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-0/D-4 - 6 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-2 - 73 aircrafts built,
Bf110 D-3 - 254 aircrafts built,

P.S. Tell me please, what Geschwader of Luftwaffe was the first who got 500 air-to-air victories, and when it happened?

Well, looking at your sig I guess it was ZG 76... But where where they when JG54 passed 9000 kills? Or when JG52 passed 10000

But it is an interesting fact that the 110 actually did not have that bad K/D ratio (when I talked ratio it was more from the number deployed/number destroyed). But if the cautious 110:s where in a defensive circle or high above and the the Heinkels continued their bombing approach defended on close range by the 109:s - who should the RAF pilots focus on? Then a 110 could dive down to get a kill but it did not really affect the battle in the same way as the 109:s... Just guessing.

[Romanator21]

With regards to Italian aircraft, although they were rare in the battle, when someone is in the store casually browsing through the game section, they see a nice Battle of Britain packaging, with a couple Italian planes on the back. That someone's eyes are going to go wide, because they never imagined Italy had any part in that battle at all, and the sheer curiosity will tip them off the fence into buying it.

I think that within a year we will get our Do-17s, Defiants, Bf-110 variants, etc. So have no fear:

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Romanator21

With regards to Italian aircraft, although they were rare in the battle, when someone is in the store casually browsing through the game section, they see a nice Battle of Britain packaging, with a couple Italian planes on the back. That someone's eyes are going to go wide, because they never imagined Italy had any part in that battle at all, and the sheer curiosity will tip them off the fence into buying it.

He he, maybe - but a person who gets a kick from seeing Italian planes present in a BoB simulator will buy it anyway, and he's probably already here on the forum

[HFC_Dolphin]

BTW, in Foo'bar's page, we can see additional 3 pictures, taken from KAG's forum

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by HFC_Dolphin

BTW, in Foo'bar's page, we can see additional 3 pictures, taken from KAG's forum

Nice pictures - can't wait to see the new damage-model in action.

[Foo'bar]

OT?

[Insuber]

Ilya,

The G.50bis Freccia looks amazingly detailed, and the skin + weathering is quite realistic. The heavy discoloration pattern behind the pit is seen in actual photos of the time of CAI (Corpo Aereo Italiano).

The model quality is already very good for a still picture, shadow, lighting and all, even more if we consider that it will be a real time simulation ... I'm quite afraid now about the framerate, but I really prefer to have a complex sim now and wait a little bit for new more powerful h/w.


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