Friday 2009-10-30 Screenshots Update discussion thread

[1conu59]

oleg: -I'm a professional photographer as well, so perfect visual presentation is a very important goal for me

I live in north of France in an aera near the channel.During Ww2, there was a complex of bunkers where Hitler planned to build his third secret weapon.In fact, it was a super canon concept with selfpowered rocketshells.This is an underground built fortress with 400 meters long concrete galeries called "the Mimoyecques fortress"(that is the place name).Fortunatelly, the allies, noticelly Captain Kennedy a JFK relative bombed the entire area and destroyed it.Captain Kennedy died during one of the raids toward the fortress. http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-her...ec-v3.htm#info
Most of the complex still remain.How would like to make scenarii like one of this including making historical events with some of the originals characters?
I think it would be interesting to confront players with historical characters to reach the goal of fitting both hyper realistic details with more historical accuracy as well. To my opinion, IL2 BOB would be a perfect simulation if it could reach this goal.
Are you interested in pics of the bunkers and the rural surroundings of the northern part of france, near the Channel?

[C6_Krasno]

Le jeu est centré sur la bataille d'angleterre, je doute qu'ils y mettent un scénario de 1944, non ?

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by 1conu59

I live in north of France in an aera near the channel.During Ww2, there was a complex of bunkers where Hitler planned to build his third secret weapon.In fact, it was a super canon concept with selfpowered rocketshells.This is an underground built fortress with 400 meters long concrete galeries called "the Mimoyecques fortress"(that is the place name).Fortunatelly, the allies, noticelly Captain Kennedy a JFK relative bombed the entire area and destroyed it.Captain Kennedy died during one of the raids toward the fortress. http://www.theotherside.co.uk/tm-her...ec-v3.htm#info
Most of the complex still remain.How would like to make scenarii like one of this including making historical events with some of the originals characters?
I think it would be interesting to confront players with historical characters to reach the goal of fitting both hyper realistic details with more historical accuracy as well. To my opinion, IL2 BOB would be a perfect simulation if it could reach this goal.
Are you interested in pics of the bunkers and the rural surroundings of the northern part of france, near the Channel?

Vergeltungswaffen 3
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...ingSite/v3.jpg
was not in battle of england

[1conu59]

it's just an exemple you can find orders historical characters. I just think it's interesting to confront players with historical characters

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by imaca

Really? , look at how the price of 4850/70 has plummeted in the last few months.
If there is one thing you can be sure of its that todays top of the line video card will be 1/2 the price in 12-18 months, and that it will have 1/2 the performance of the top of the line by then.
If I think back to IL2FB, the video card I almost bought (nvidia 5600) would have been useless, luckily I waited and bought a R9800 when the price had dropped.
If your thinking of upgrading for SOW BEFORE SOW comes out, you are crazy.

If you said that prices will plummet, i will wait to January o February to buy a radeon 4890 and then, then when prices "plummet" more (September 2010), I will buy another and do a Crossfire. Buth first i will buy a power OCZ 750W P&cool for support that SLI. I have a Sentey 600w
And I thing that I need change my Quad 9400 (2.66) for a I7, buth in a very distant future...
Very nice News that Storm Of War will work whit 64bits , I have 4GBram, and will puth another 4GBram. For now, the only game i have that recognaice that is Arma2.
and Yes, i am thinking in SOW when i think in actializing my machine... so what?

[AdMan]

Originally Posted by zakkandrachoff

If you said that prices will plummet, i will wait to January o February to buy a radeon 4890 and then, then when prices "plummet" more (September 2010), I will buy another and do a Crossfire. Buth first i will buy a power OCZ 750W P&cool for support that SLI. I have a Sentey 600w
And I thing that I need change my Quad 9400 (2.66) for a I7, buth in a very distant future...
Very nice News that Storm Of War will work whit 64bits , I have 4GBram, and will puth another 4GBram. For now, the only game i have that recognaice that is Arma2.
and Yes, i am thinking in SOW when i think in actializing my machine... so what?

Of course were all still waiting on specs, but I'm waiting for PCI-e 3.0 to be released before doing a full upgrade which should be showing up on shelves in 2010. With a Q9400 you should be able to OC to at least 3ghz with a decent board, wouldn't be to concerned there, that's a pretty good processor. I'd wait for pci3.0 mainboards to be released and get one that's a good overclocker. In the meantime maybe get a better Power Supply if you want to run SLI but I see SLI becoming more of a novelty than anything, even now unless your trying to play Crysis on high settings you can get most games to run great with a single card solution and PCI 3.0 will double the bandwidth of PCI 2.0

I'd definitely lose the 64bit OS if at all possible tho.

[brando]

Originally Posted by 1conu59

it's just an exemple you can find orders historical characters. I just think it's interesting to confront players with historical characters

What will be interesting to see is whether the pilots (both AI and human) will obey the orders that Dowding and Park were issuing to their 11 Group squadrons, viz. do not engage the escorts unless it becomes necessary, the bombers are the primary target.
Scenarios fall apart when pilots disobey their orders and go dogfight-crazy.

B

[LJ371]

hey oleg,
as a cinematographer and long time il2 fan, I have dreamed of the day when your planes would reach HD quality. Based on the screens I cant help but feel the time is very near. A very pleasing site for us all. So, I was wondering if there would be any way to set the models in an editing mode with a blue/green screen~esque area for composites for film/video. I would love to use and see filmmakers be able to incorporate these new flight models into videos & film formats since they look so real!

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by 1conu59

it's just an exemple you can find orders historical characters. I just think it's interesting to confront players with historical characters

In this case it would be much more logical to make a mission with this special target. Maybe somebody will make a modell of this gun and implement it.

But you can't expect every little detail of WW2 implemented, units with exact position and status or soldier with rifle and magazine how it was in the exact moment in WW2. Even modelling every bunker with exact position and equipment would probably postpone SoW by 10 years. But then again, that's why you can add such stuff yourself. Hopefully with thousands of enthousiasts the density of realistic installations will increase drastically, if the engine allows the large number of objects, that is

In the end the old wisdom still has some truth: If you make a 100% realistic simulation, you build the real thing.

Same is true for bailing out behind enemy lines and fighting your way back. That game won't be a shooter. If you use your gun, you won't stand a chance. It's more a tactical game like "Lost Platoon", where you can decide to dig through the minefield or go sneak by the surveillance post. But in neither case you can simulate what it was like to make it back home, so you'd never succeed in recreating that.

[p1xel]

These latest screenshots are looking very good. I almost jumped in with some comments on the last set, but I'm glad I didn't now.

I think a lot of people (including myself) didn't quite appreciate what stage of development they were showing and expected the screenshots to be an indication of "this is the best we can do" rather than "this is where we are at now", even if told otherwise .

I have one question. In the latest screens (the ones with the planes and various times of day) it looks like there may be some antialiasing - perhaps 2x. Did you find a way to make antialiasing work with HDR, or are the images just scaled down in photoshop?