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Old 10-26-2009, 03:15 PM
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Heck of a first post ... I'm sorry.
I do appreciate your passion dreadnaught and I do agree with most of your views but let's try to keep things in context without pissing off Anton. This game is a first and while it has flaws it certainly has done enough right to keep a lot of us playing.

I know I'll still play BOP after COD MW2 comes out because I'm a flight sim dork along with most of us here.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:17 PM
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I do appreciate your passion dreadnaught and I do agree with most of your views but let's try to keep things in context without pissing off Anton. This game is a first and while it has flaws it certainly has done enough right to keep a lot of us playing.

I know I'll still play BOP after COD MW2 comes out because I'm a flight sim dork along with most of us here.
Im the same.

I will enjoy MW2 alot and play it religiously, but it doesnt offer you the chance to admire the english countryside from 20000ft in a hurricane so i'll be playing this every once in a while.

Just hope the online community stays strong.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:21 PM
Anton Yudintsev Anton Yudintsev is offline
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I've been a long-time lurker on these boards, and like the rest of us, have suffered silenty and tried to like this game -- mostly on account of my love of WWII aviation and associated emotional investment. I have to say something now ...

While I appreciate Anton's much needed update, I am very offended and put-off by his tone. I want to know if anybody else feels similarly.
Sorry for that.

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"Stop blame us, that's unfair - we are the ones, who suffered most, because we are spending our own money to make community happy, and not only getting a dime from that, but also recieving negative feedback."

So, we are supposed to feel sorry for you and your team when it was your decision to release a game that shouldn't have even escaped Q/A?
I don't agree that the game shouldn't have even escaped QA.
The game has passed QA. It has been tested for half a year. It has passed MS final approval from first attempt, if it tells you a thing.

Update is mostly update, than patch.
It is primarily adding a lot to the game, not fixing bugs.
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I'm not talking about the performance tweaks to match aircraft performance to historical reality; I'm talking about the game-breaking deadzone issues that make flying with a stick an exercise in frustration and masochism.
On X360 - it is Microsoft limitation. We can't adjust deadzones at all.
On PS3 - we've made it similair, to provide similair experience for all users.
It could be wrong decision, but it is reasonable.
We never told anyone, that deadzones will be tweakable on PS3 - so no false promises.
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Save the tears about your damn money ... and all the "negative feedback" you've gotten. You deserve it
OK, we deserve it.
Sorry for trying to make game better after release - that's surely only our fault.
But we are going to continue this behaviour. Sorry again.

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Sorry to vent, but that "our own money" crap-- combined with the fact that we got DLC (which I bought) before the game-fixing update -- set me off.
We are NOT releasing DLC or update.
We are making it.
And, we are making update on our own money for a good reason - we want to support community, to maintain their loyalty. So it is not you would owe us something, if it would be released.
But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.

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Old 10-26-2009, 03:30 PM
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Anton:

MY tone was perhaps too aggressive and angry in the previous post. It is not my purpose to antagonize you.

You have shown great moral courage in answering to what has become an increasingly impatient and hostile audience here. You are taking a whipping for it and that is not easy, but you are doing the right thing.

Thank you for addressing the issues I brought up in my post directly.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:30 PM
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But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.
So its not even at MS or Sony yet? Its still in publishers hands?
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:32 PM
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But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.
Uh Oh, that doesnt sound to good

Anton, is their anyway we as the buyer can get onto the publisher? as it figures, you wasted money making patch etc, we as the buyer wasted money on a game that needs a patch, so im pretty sure we can take them to the cleaners lol. What, dya say!!
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:33 PM
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But publisher is not releasing it - which makes making update useless waste of money, which upsets me.
so what are you saying anton ?? that the update isnt getting released ??


OK RIGHT PPL LETS CUT THE CRAP HERE THIS THREAD WASNT STARTED TO BASH ANTON AND CREW BUT TO PROVOKE A RESPONCE ABOUT THE UPDATE !!!

SO LET GETS DOWN TO FACTS ANTON ???

IS THE UPDATE GETTING RELEASED LIKE YOU SAID IN AN PREVIOUS POST OR ARE THE PUBLISHERS HOLDING THE UPDATE BACK FOR WHAT EVER REASON ????

STRAIGHT ANSWERS PLEASE !!
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:36 PM
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I think some are to hard on the devs. They are not exactly a large operation. I think they are doing their best under the circumstances.

I am very disapointed with the terrible performance of the 190. Also with the UFO performance of the LA-7....but this is still the best flight game on the 360.

I am very tired of losing kills, but I have a feeling that issue will be resolved soon.

Anton, I think you need a better publisher.

Still a great game, and hey, nothing is perfect.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:40 PM
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So its not even at MS or Sony yet? Its still in publishers hands?
Don't know - for now.
But it was in publisher hands for at least 10 previous days.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:43 PM
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your publisher is screwing you over anton, dont stand for it. Your the one who loses out here (and us).

Threaten them.

I know a guy who knows a guy who know a girl who knows a guy who knows a chick with a dick who slept with a guy who has kids with this girl who's brothers mate knows a guy who's uncle is in M15 and trained james bond with gadgets and stuff...


want me to get him to have a word?

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