New USAAF Campaign Desperately Needed - Page 2

flynlion · #1 10-23-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudorp15

If I could add to that.. I think it is a very slippery slope to undertake in a game like this. I also know that Asia has a large gaming community. Maybe even larger than North America. If they add a Pacific Theme, how will that sit in the Japanese markets? I am not so sure they want to be a part of the reminder of the scars they still have today from the war. For us, it would be a cool facet of BOP, but other cultures, and perspectives may not embrace it like we, and the other Allies would...

Just out of curiousity, are there many Germans or Italians out there who enjoy the game? I've already confessed to feeling a pang of guilt when I shoot at a Hurricane or Spitfire, and I'm from the USA.

David603 · #2 10-24-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudorp15

If I could add to that.. I think it is a very slippery slope to undertake in a game like this. I also know that Asia has a large gaming community. Maybe even larger than North America. If they add a Pacific Theme, how will that sit in the Japanese markets? I am not so sure they want to be a part of the reminder of the scars they still have today from the war. For us, it would be a cool facet of BOP, but other cultures, and perspectives may not embrace it like we, and the other Allies would...

Il2 1946 has the Pacific-South East Asia theatre in it, and the Japanese community for that game is one of the biggest non-English speaking communities in the world. They turn out a lot of top quality mods for that game too, mainly Japanese aircraft but also some American aircraft from the same theatre.

DoraNine · #3 10-23-2009, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Tudorp15

Please do not take this next comment out of context. I am also a proud American, and also a USAF veteran. But, I am also open minded, and tend to have the talent to see other perspectives, and am very aware of our (American) faults. One of them being we are a very arogant culture, and tend to think everything revolves around us.
Just saying..

I'm definitely one of the "arrogant ones who thinks that everything evolves around us"

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx · #4 10-23-2009, 04:04 PM

I'd rather have a German campaign. See the other side of the war for once.

FOZ_1983 · #5 10-23-2009, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by xX-SiLeNCE-Xx

I'd rather have a German campaign. See the other side of the war for once.

EAW (european air war) was good for this, waayyyyy back in the day.

It gave you the choice of the luftwaffe campaign in -

battle of britain 1940
europe 1943
europe 1944

if you started europe in 43, you could carry your stats and squadron over to the 4 campaign. Though prior to starting the campaign as the luftwaffe it clearly said "you cannot win the war" just drag it out a little longer.

I remember it well, taking down bombers (unsure of what until i got close enough to intercept) and they usually had spitfires or P47's escorting them if it was close enough to the english channel, then i remember one game... i went up to interept a formation of B17's, same shit different day. I see the escorts, and expect spits or P47's (preffered P47's they were big and easy) but it turned out to be my first encounter with the P51D.... son of a bitch wiped out practically my entire staffel. I was not happy at all!! On the whole it was a superb and very enjoyable luftwaffe camapign, i would love another authentic campaign similar to this one.

Crispus222 · #6 10-23-2009, 05:30 PM

Actually, this is kind of an arrogant request imo. The developers did a great job on this game and your telling them that they need more US in it. Play any other WWII game and you'll most likely get American missions. Even though you guys were originally gonna stay out of the war until you got attacked by the Japanese in 1943 (Is that correct, 1943?). That's like me asking for a Canadian perspective for once. You think your misrepresented! We're not represented... I think it's refreshing to have a WWII game with a low American presence for once. Yes, the US helped win the war, but so did everyone else, and they fought for much longer. The perspective that is put out there is that you guys won the war and without you it could not happen. The game is great, so stop complaining. (I guess you just can't please them all though right... Everyone always wants something more...)

Tudorp15 · #7 10-23-2009, 05:37 PM

This may be arrogant, I don't know.. But, I do give kudos to all veterans that fought in the war regardless of country, victory or loss. But, I also believe that the war could not have been won without the US support. I also believe that we could not have won it by ourselves for that matter either... Every soldier that fought in that war, regardless of which side, thought they were the good guys...

Crispus222 · #8 10-23-2009, 05:58 PM

I should also state that I don't mean to downplay any of the American's that fought in the war. Many lost there lives and we must respect those who fought for our freedom!

Lexandro · #9 10-23-2009, 05:37 PM

I mean no offence here to the US peeps, but dont you there are enough US-centric games on the market as it is? Granted some of the big publishing houses are based in the US so some bias towards that market it to be expected.

I find it refreshing that for once the US have to take a backseat in a games story, where the focus is on how the UK and Russia faired in the war.

I dont want to bellitle the war effort of the US servicemen but the pacific campaign was not a very stellar enviroment for aerial combat. The actual scenery would consist largely of open ocean and on the odd occasion an island. Its not the greatest setting for a game with such great landscaping effects and other visual treats.

However adding in more missions from the US airforce campaign over Europe would be in keeping with the games feel and I would support it.

Vulcan607 · #10 10-23-2009, 06:04 PM

Most war games on the market have an American campain, fair dos you were in WWII and saved us Limeys skins, and cheers for that, but do you honestly think that those games would have sold aswell if they hadnt got a US campain mode?

Most of my favorite XBL quote came for Americans
"I dont know why you guys call it English, we invented it".
"Do you Know the Queen?" (one of the most common)
"England, what state is that in?"

but to be fair there are some damn fine chaps from the US out there.