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Old 10-23-2009, 02:35 AM
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Yes. The only US fighters at Leyte Gulf, were the US Navy FM2 Wildcats which flew off of the "Truck Carriers". F4Fs were kinda phased out in 44'. And Grumman started to focus on F6Fs and such, while GM created the FM1-2-3s (which 3s were just a prototype that I don't think actually got off the paper?)
The battle for sibuyan sea (part of leyte gulf yes?) the japanese fleet was sighted and attacked by torpedo bombers and dive bobmers aswell as fighters... hellcats. Im sure i distinctivly remember this.

I just dont have strong knowledge of this theatre at all so to be honest i dont have a leg to stand on. Im prob wrong though. I just remember thinking how odd it was that hellcats were straffing ships with MG's etc.

Your prob right.
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:40 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Leyte_Gulf


Im not doubting you one bit, you clearly know what your talking about and as i've said i really know nothing of this theatre other than what i've seen on tv as it doesnt really interest me as much as the european theatre.

Maybe the hellcats and wildcats both flew here?
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Old 10-23-2009, 02:41 AM
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The battle for sibuyan sea (part of leyte gulf yes?) the japanese fleet was sighted and attacked by torpedo bombers and dive bobmers aswell as fighters... hellcats. Im sure i distinctivly remember this.

I just dont have strong knowledge of this theatre at all so to be honest i dont have a leg to stand on. Im prob wrong though. I just remember thinking how odd it was that hellcats were straffing ships with MG's etc.

Your prob right.
Somewhere between part 1-5, it mentions FM2 Wildcats, at the Battle off Samar. That's where the Yamamoto, took on the Truck Carriers, and Destroyer Escorts, along with some other small ships. Kinda amazing actually.





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Old 10-23-2009, 02:50 AM
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battle of samar was wildcats, operating as part of taffy 3??

im all confused now lol
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Old 10-23-2009, 03:58 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_McCampbell
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:06 AM
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So it was the hellcat then? thought it was, but didnt wish to push the subject as i know next to nothing about it.

The guy was a pretty damn good pilot!!
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:10 AM
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It only mentions his achievement of being an "Ace in a Day" during the Marianna's Turkey Shoot which had nothing to do with the invasion of Leyte. Both of those took part in two different areas of the Pacific.

If you read the book, "Last of the Tin Can Sailors", then you'll know that no F6F Hellcats took part in Leyte because Leyte was a diversion/bluff. And that it was just to try and see what the Japanese Navy was doing. The video I gave, will explain it better than I can at the moment. (Another 4hrs of over time is killing me. )

EDIT: Here is the Battle of Leyte Gulf. Read over the Battle off Samar section, and the whole thing for that matter. It mentions FM2s, not F6Fs.

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Old 10-23-2009, 04:40 AM
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From what i can gather the USS Essex was covering the leyte landing and did have hellcats. The MAJORITY of taffy 3 was made of of wildcats and avengers, but not all of it

i have to stop here though because i REALLY dont know that much about it because its not my thing. Only what ive seen on tv and in a few books. Someone else is better discussing this one.
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Old 10-23-2009, 04:48 AM
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From what i can gather the USS Essex was covering the leyte landing and did have hellcats. The MAJORITY of taffy 3 was made of of wildcats and avengers, but not all of it

i have to stop here though because i REALLY dont know that much about it because its not my thing. Only what ive seen on tv and in a few books. Someone else is better discussing this one.
The Hellcats, were used as a cover. Since the Japanese didn't have many fighters at Leyte (5 total maybe!?), the Hellcats never saw action. Just wanna clarify that. The air battle that took place at Leyte Gulf was the Battle off Samar between FM2 Wildcats, and the Japanese Battleships.

Seriously FOZ, if you want to know more about Leyte. Read "The Last of the Tin Can Sailors". It's all about Samar, and Leyte.
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