Smug Question, but a question never the less.

[nudger1964]

Originally Posted by Ancient Seraph

The question itself could've been made more into a statement, or advise, but looking at the title of the post he knows what it sounds like .
Still, I have to agree with him a bit, since it's a realistic game, people should do a little bit more research or try-outs before jumping into an airplane. One of the downsides of realistic settings .

with respect, no they shouldnt...everyone has paid their money and they can enjoy it at whatever level they like. If that means they are too easy a target for your enjoyment, well tough titty IMO.
i enjoy it at a recreational level...i really have no inclination to study the aircraft beyond what i find i enjoy to fly.

[Ancient Seraph]

I'm sorry if I happened to sound arrogant, or whatever you thought it was. I didn't mean people should dive in the books or something, I sure didn't, but at least try out some stuff. No problem if they don't, but at least for me the game is much better when I fly an aircraft that flies like I want it to. If someone wants to fly the P-51 because it's their favorite plane, be my guest, just don't be surprised if you have a hard time killing someone.
As a general advise to those who recently started playing the game, I'd say they should try different aircraft, maybe take a look at the forums, just so you'll find a plane you like.

[akuma]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I was just playing against my friend, and someone neither of us knew? I was flying of course, my Yak-3, and my friend was flying a 109G6 as well as the other guy. While my friend knows not to come down and take me on, the other guy who had some skills up high, had little to none at lower altitudes.

And so my question is, because this seems to happen to me every time I fly my Yak-3 against a 109. Why do some people online, think that 5,000ft and below, they can challenge me in a turning and roll fight? Has anyone else gone up against these kinds of people?

And to answer the possible question of did I win against him. The simple answer is of course: Yes!

This is probably the reason the severs are so very empty, people think that sim fans are arrongant bastards that mock anyone would cannot list in order each component of the plane.

If you met this person in your first match that view would be solidified.

So gloat if you will sir, but enjoy your empty servers.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by Gazz6666

Well, I almost always start from altitude and dive down low to do the majority of the fighting. For the last 10-12 games, i've been flying with the 109 series aircraft, and I can outturn Hurricanes and Spitfires on the deck.

Not trying to blow my own trumpet here, but it's not just the plane, it's also the pilot

Originally Posted by ontheborderland

The simple answer is that not everybody knows as much as you about this subject. It's pretty elitist you calling them "these kinds of people".

Originally Posted by DoubleStandards

Hey Soviet Ace,
I usually enjoy your posts, and I must say, even this thread has given me some more knowledge to help me online, but I wonder if you realize what kind of elitist jacka** you sound like here. I really hope that this is not what this community is going to turn into.

Not trying to pick a fight with you, just wanted to point it out, maybe you just dont realize how you sounded.

Originally Posted by John192

I have to aggree with this guy.

Have you been drinking Soviet Ace cause this "im so great" BS is not like your usuall posting habbits which i realy enjoy and learn lots from

Originally Posted by TRC Subaru

I bet it was shots of chilled Stoli...

…and it ain’t bragging if you can back it up…

But seriously Ace, unlike the PC version, you will be getting a whole new crowd of “newbie’s” who don’t have a clue to what a WWII fighter is all about. Hell, most weren’t even born until after stealth technology…So I propose, for the good of the game, we help the newcomers understand and enjoy dog fighting so they continue to play BoP, and buy the downloads which will make the game a great success so we will get more planes and there will always be a good group of pilots online to have a challenging and rewarding dogfight with at anytime…and maybe even get those darn German cockpits eventually…

I told you, and even in the title, the question was smug. But I didn't expect everyone on here to understand the limitations of the planes while playing, but if you are flying simulator. You should realize how your plane handles at 10,000 or 5,000ft.

I'm not trying to tear anyone down by any means, in fact I was hoping to open some eyes by realizing that if they're flying a 109, not to dogfight at lower altitudes, and vise versa with Yaks etc. I know I came of as an "elitists", but I was just wondering why some people did that? I can understand not knowing about the planes, but maybe now, people will start looking into their planes and seeing where they fit in altitude dogfights?

[nudger1964]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

I can understand not knowing about the planes, but maybe now, people will start looking into their planes and seeing where they fit in altitude dogfights?

nope, i still dont give a monkeys...i'll try to out turn anybody at any altitude and probably wont even know what it is they are flying anyways...you see, the thing is, when i get shot down, i dont really die.

actually, i do want to learn the manouvers...turning gets a bit boring after a while....but i certainly dont want to know the related performance charateristics of various aircraft at any given altitude...no sir, i dont want to know that at all

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by nudger1964

nope, i still dont give a monkeys...i'll try to out turn anybody at any altitude and probably wont even know what it is they are flying anyways...you see, the thing is, when i get shot down, i dont really die.

actually, i do want to learn the manouvers...turning gets a bit boring after a while....but i certainly dont want to know the related performance charateristics of various aircraft at any given altitude...no sir, i dont want to know that at all

Well it does give you an advantage over other players, to know what your plane is best at what altitude and such. Just trying to out turn someone over and over again, just turns into a game of who is going to lose speed the fastest, and not be able to recover in time? It's happened.

[mdbuehler]

The fun thing about this game (one of those newbie folks here ) is that I'd never even heard of 90% of these planes before I bought it! I'd thought WWII was fought with only Mustangs, Spits, Corsairs, Zeros and some Mescherscmits (sp?). I've found my new love with the LA-7, Russia had some great planes! I've had excellent luck online with this one. I've spent a bit of time reading now about the various aircraft too, lots of interesting history in it.

Our 8 yo son now runs around the house with a die-cast Polikarpov I-16 as his main dogfighting toy, lol Never heard of that one either. I'm going to guess most people trying this game don't know what fighter is good for what, especially what optimal altitudes are.

[nudger1964]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Well it does give you an advantage over other players, to know what your plane is best at what altitude and such. Just trying to out turn someone over and over again, just turns into a game of who is going to lose speed the fastest, and not be able to recover in time? It's happened.

yeah i know, thats usually why i get shot down, cos i get bored and try summut else.
anyways, i must be seriously bad at the game, cos i find the spitfire way easier to fly than the 109....
maybe i just find it nicer though...which is why i fly it regardless of what anyone else is flying.

[Soviet Ace]

Originally Posted by mdbuehler

The fun thing about this game (one of those newbie folks here ) is that I'd never even heard of 90% of these planes before I bought it! I'd thought WWII was fought with only Mustangs, Spits, Corsairs, Zeros and some Mescherscmits (sp?). I've found my new love with the LA-7, Russia had some great planes! I've had excellent luck online with this one. I've spent a bit of time reading now about the various aircraft too, lots of interesting history in it.

Our 8 yo son now runs around the house with a die-cast Polikarpov I-16 as his main dogfighting toy, lol Never heard of that one either. I'm going to guess most people trying this game don't know what fighter is good for what, especially what optimal altitudes are.

And that's why I think some people should look into the planes, not just because it could assist them with the Online aspect of the game, but because then you just get a better respect for the planes.

Originally Posted by nudger1964

yeah i know, thats usually why i get shot down, cos i get bored and try summut else.
anyways, i must be seriously bad at the game, cos i find the spitfire way easier to fly than the 109....
maybe i just find it nicer though...which is why i fly it regardless of what anyone else is flying.

Well I suggest looking into the Spitfire models in the game, and read some info on them outside the game. You'll get a better aspect of what your up against and what your limitations are etc. online.

[nudger1964]

Originally Posted by Soviet Ace

Well I suggest looking into the Spitfire models in the game, and read some info on them outside the game. You'll get a better aspect of what your up against and what your limitations are etc. online.

see, your missing the point....that makes it more like a study task...its a fun game to me and my sort. it really dosnt matter untill i come up against someone like you, and i suspect you would get me regardless of my knowledge of the aircraft.
i think what you need to do, is think of people like me as the rookie with 5hrs flying experiance before put in the front line. that way we can all enjoy the game at the level we choose