Me 110. Very Hard to Destroy.

[MB_Avro_UK]

Hi all

I have about 60 hours flying the Hurricane in CoD. But I have found the Me 110 a very, very difficult aircraft to destroy or even to reduce it's effectiveness.

I have no problems destroying bombers or even the Me 109 at close quarters.

But the Me 110 even at close quarters refuses to die. It will die eventually but it seems to absorb so much ammunition.

Anybody else feel the same?


Best Regards,
MB_Avro.


The Battle of Britain was not only Britain's Finest Hour. It was also Humanity's Finest Hour.

Author Stephen Bungay,The Most Dangerous Enemy.

[335th_GRAthos]

Had you been flying Spitfire, I would have suggested that the difference in size between the ME110 and the Bf109 make you misjudge the firing distance and the convergence makes the bullets go astray.

But since you fly Hurris I do not know what to say...

[Frequent_Flyer]

Aim for the canopy on a Bf-110 and you will soon find you get multiple kills per encounter. The Ju-87 seems to be unrealistically difficult to take out in my opinion.

[jojovtx]

Both the 110 and JU87 are very robust aircraft. The JU87 especially so since it is designed to withstand very high G forces after pull out and I presume armored well in the event of encountering ground fire. The 110 is a large aircraft with alot of empty space for little bitty bullets to pass through.

However, being on the receiving end of a hurri and spit, more times than I really care to admit, it may look like you do no damage but I promise you I am running for home and hoping my fuel/engines hold out long enough for me to put it down safely.

I for my part don't have difficulties in downing 110ers but with 111 ... and I use the Spit. BTW also in a Hurricane one has to take care about convergence albeit to a lesser extent than in a Spit.

I have more issues with the rather weak cannon shells of the 109. I usually make my kills with the MGs rather the cannons while when reading pilot accounts the pilots seemed to have preferred the cannon for killing.

My feeling is that the MGs are quite well modelled in COD doing realistic damage now but the cannon not enough. Please don't tell me about the fire rate of the cannons, I know that it was low. My thought is rather on the damage potential of a cannon shell.

[Strike]

Originally Posted by 41Sqn_Stormcrow

I for my part don't have difficulties in downing 110ers but with 111 ... and I use the Spit. BTW also in a Hurricane one has to take care about convergence albeit to a lesser extent than in a Spit.

I have more issues with the rather weak cannon shells of the 109. I usually make my kills with the MGs rather the cannons while when reading pilot accounts the pilots seemed to have preferred the cannon for killing.

My feeling is that the MGs are quite well modelled in COD doing realistic damage now but the cannon not enough. Please don't tell me about the fire rate of the cannons, I know that it was low. My thought is rather on the damage potential of a cannon shell.

I thought the dreaded "mine" rounds came with the MGFF/M version that could fire that type of ammunition.

The ones we have now do practically no penetration damage at all because they explode on impact. The explosion itself does little more than rip off fuselage skin unless the impact is in the wingroots where the explosion can damage more surrounding surface. I'd say the right ammunition for the cannons would be armor piercing atm since the 20mm slugs would carry more momentum than the MGs. When the mine-rounds come with the new MGFF/M it should become really devastating, shredding wings etc much faster.

[Jabo2009]

Originally Posted by Frequent_Flyer

Aim for the canopy on a Bf-110 and you will soon find you get multiple kills per encounter. The Ju-87 seems to be unrealistically difficult to take out in my opinion.

did some ju 87 hunting last evening and I fully agree here: the stuka eats tons of lead before it shows heavy battle damage... feels like ages to take one down, hope they fix the DM on it

[TomcatViP]

Yes it's much harder to score a kill than in Il2. But then we had some bad habits (1 hit 1 kill eco shooting).

Man has to see the old photographies showing the number of impact on German bomber shot down during BoB to makes his own mind.

Take it like a new challenge to your own skills.

On that point the recent HS canon (ridiculous) mods for the spit is outragsous in many regards (Bing Bing You dead..)

~S

[Kurfürst]

I wonder how the DM looks like COD.

In Il-2 it seemed really simplistic, with the wing for example divided into three sections, with hit points assigned to each. The amount of hit points only seemed to be related to wing area, with perhaps some individual tweaks.

It's quite possible the supposedly more complex DM of COD simply makes small caliber guns ineffective unless you hit vitals, as now you can't seem to just damage the 'generic' wing and accumulate damage - relatively easy to do even with small damage potential weapons, since you basically had just three fairly large target areas to hit - until a structural failure happens, which was typical the cause for getting shot down in Il-2.

Perhaps in CoD its more refined, and for example you have to hit the wing spar - a small target, and not very sensitive to occasional mosquito bites from RCMGs - to have chance for structural failure. A skin holed everywhere is just that, it will decrease flight characteristics, but others its generally not a main load bearing element.