Durability of aircraft to MG (< 8mm) guns

[winny]

Originally Posted by swiss

Ever put a tomato in a microwave?

You have a way with words Swiss.

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Flying Pencil

And the Germans would repair very badly damaged aircraft simply because they could not get replacements.

..and therefore it's a bad idea not to down it.

[334th_Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

Well at least Ive seen wings breaking off due to the ammo exploding after getting hit.Cannon rounds could definitely do what Im asking

Glacier Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8h43TRXwk

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by Flying Pencil

Some excellent info on the effectiveness of those weapons:

http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/WW2guneffect.htm

http://users.telenet.be/Emmanuel.Gus...n/fgun-pe.html

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/show...mp-Machineguns.

Good links.

This small pic caught my eye. The parts of a bomber vulnerable to rifle calibre machine gun according to a French study:

[Biggs]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

Good links.

This small pic caught my eye. The parts of a bomber vulnerable to rifle calibre machine gun according to a French study:

ha, notice the entire cockpit section is blacked out... not really vulnerability to the 'bomber' but more the 'inhabitants'

[trademe900]

Originally Posted by Biggs

yep... and heres proof!! Everything in Purple is part of the damage model.



I dont have a pics of the 109 damage model but here are some other development pics that show plenty of internal modeling which will have a DM applied to it like in the spit pic...



the .303s will run into plenty of damageable stuff inside these planes

Sorry to dig up an old thread but this is very interesting- does anyone have any pics of the Do17z, Ju88 etc?

Also perhaps nice for a change to realize one of the truly cool features and capabilities of this simulator...

[Flanker35M]

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As comparison the Finnish Fokker D.XXI pilots quickly noted that the .303cal guns were not enough to reliably kill a well armored bomber nor a fighter with good armor plate behind pilot. For example in many occasions the I-16 had been peppered by all 4 x .303cal but the plane puttered on as the rear armor behind pilot stopped the bullets. Same applied to Soviet bombers like DB-3 that had tough armoring in the fuselage, pilots had to aim very carefully to kill the engines so the plane fell. Fokker D.XXI had 2200rds of ammo and many times most of it was used. So you can imagine the joy when Brewsters with 4 x .50cal came and shredded the opposition compared to Fokkers. Bf109G-2 and G-6 later on brought the cannon into play and pilots all stated that the 20mm was more than enough to kill a fighter easily and bombers with short bursts.

Just adding some thoughts