Release it?

[tk471138]

"We're very glad to announce that the beta patch is largely done. It's going into wide internal testing today, which will last through the weekend and probably a couple of days more. After we make sure nothing is amiss, we'll make the beta patch available to everyone "



hmm it seems that their is indeed a beta patch....and it seems that this same beta patch could be released to the community for testing (which they plan on doing any ways as long as "nothing is amiss"



so you see the word beta attached to the world patch...this implies that the beta patch will have minor issues and even maybe one or two major issues that could only be discovered, by wide scale testing....


but i guess you people wont download the beta patch when it is released, since you dont believe in not releasing things that arent finished...and the nature of a beta is that its not finished...

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by GraveyardJimmy

At the time of the OP it was not known if the patch was ready.

What would the point be of comiling half finished code that would create an instant CTD when it attempts to load? Of course the code of a graphics engine rewrite needs to be finished before you can release a beta, you cant just half write something, release it due to whining and call it a beta.

MOOT POINT considering the patch is "largly done"

not as you put it "half finished"

seriously people keep comming up with the fallacies....and also please feel free to not download the beta patch when it comes out, since all you hypocrites keep harping on the negatives of releasing a patch that is not finished...

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

who said 'finished product'?, read my post again and let me know when you 'get it'

you point is also moot since they put the patch in closed testing...the same patch that is a candidate to be released to the community as a beta.....

not to mention the language B6 used..."largely done"


you see the beta patch COULD mean some users can enjoy the game, sure some machines might have trouble with it...but if the release of a beta means the paying customers who currently can not enjoy the game, have a chance of being able to enjoy their game, why not give them that opportunity....unless you people against such a release, dont want a possibility of a working product...

and if the beta patch is a failure, at least in this case they would be able to fall back upon the fact that it was a beta and was NOT guaranteed to work....(its not like the cliffs of dover game box had the word beta attached to it....)

[taildraggernut]

but once they release it it would be considered 'finished' so WTF are you talking about?

you really wan't them to just stop writing code and dump it onto the public without even knowing what it will do?

[GraveyardJimmy]

Originally Posted by tk471138

MOOT POINT considering the patch is "largly done"

not as you put it "half finished"

Largely done. Not "ready to be compiled and released". I largely finished your car, but didn't install the ignition yet, happy for it to be delivered?

You cant just leave parts of code out and hope for the best. That in a best case would create bad effects and more likely just cause memory leaks and CTDs.

What if there was an error that meant that it created a recurring function and called 100% GPU usage and overheated cards (causing them to break)? Would you be happy they released without any testing at all with a broken PC?

As they said, they are finishing it and putting it into internal testing this weekend, release this week for community beta, then it will be final release. Most companies use this system- NVIDIA for example.

[Baron]

Originally Posted by tk471138

if they beta was a "finished product" then it wouldnt be a BETA....get it yet??

you see if it was FINISHED by definition it would not be a beta....that is what we are talking about whether or not they should release the beta patch to the community for testing....


you people are crazy....


i wonder how many hypocrites who say "dont release it till its done" still bought the cliffs of dover....even though it was not finished...

They are releasing it for open beta.

They are, how ever, NOT releasing it if they KNOW there are buggs in it, hence "finished" beta.. Open beta is for finding HIDDEN buggs that can show up depending on what system you have etc, its not for finding buggs the developer allredy know is there, hence, again, "finished"

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by taildraggernut

but once they release it it would be considered 'finished' so WTF are you talking about?

you really wan't them to just stop writing code and dump it onto the public without even knowing what it will do?

im pretty sure they know what it will do...thats what the updates we have been given on friday have communicated....the only thing they dont know is how it will perform on certain peoples hardware which is the point of open beta...

just cuz they release a beta patch does not mean its finished....


i guess cuz they released cliffs of dover, it must automatically mean its finished...

seriously people love the fallacious logic you people present....

[taildraggernut]

ok lets use a famous analogy based on the glass half full here...

you ask for a drink and the bartender fills it to about 7/8ths....it's nearly done and you just want the drink so for you it's ok, for most others only a full glass will do and are prepared to wait the extra seconds for the bartender to fill it, this is not about the game being finished (we can expect a few more patches in its time) this is just about making sure the BETA is finished.
the devs still need internal testing time to give them an idea if theres any problems that will universally affect others hardware.

seriously people love the fallacious logic you people present....

why are you such an angry and rude person?

[swiss]

Originally Posted by Allons!

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Greetz, Allons!
(Whose game works very well right now with Gamebooster and the NVidia Beta drivers.)

No need to release an unfinished patch then, right?

[Volksieg]

Yegads! They've said it will probably be released in a few days! Why all this urgency and brou-ha?

I want all sorts of things! I'd like to finally finish my driving lessons and get a car! I'd like to find a job that lasts a little longer than the last three I managed to get somehow, I'd like them to somehow raise Syd Barrett from the grave and have him rejoin Pink Floyd, I'd like a Jamaican Jerk Chicken Bagel and a large Latte............

The Patch is coming, unless something goes horrifically wrong, and it is coming soon.

CHILL OUT