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Old 12-30-2010, 08:28 PM
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About to Tecnical advantage

Tecnical advantage.... ???




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Old 12-30-2010, 08:29 PM
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Try negative G
I tested. I could not "crank" the spitfire in negative G and I tried a lot. In fact i could not experience more than -2.0G in the Spitfire. The Focke Wulf is relatively easy to "crank" in negative Gs.

The Focke Wulf broke at -3.8G~-4.0G. I could not anchieve more than -2.0G in the spitfire, maybe if i trim the spitifire negative i ll. I ll try later. In principle appears to me that spitfire has much better G endurance in 4.10. Why? Ask TD.

I did not tested other aircraft, but i guess that i ll have much more surprises. Kwiatek, what you expected to me observe while trying negative g's?

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Old 12-30-2010, 08:33 PM
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Certainly "was not" technical advantage, Mustang.
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Old 12-30-2010, 08:34 PM
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I performed a G endurance test just a time ago. Flying the 190 i heard the "crank" at 8.5 G while the spitfire i heard at 9.7 G. Spits have more G endurance than Focke Wulf! I will say nothing, i am a bit used. As always...






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Old 12-30-2010, 08:42 PM
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Yes, Mustang. The allies won the war. They have to win in IL2 too, always. Spitfire is the perfect project, no compromisses.

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Old 12-30-2010, 09:09 PM
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Yes, Mustang. The allies won the war. They have to win in IL2 too, always. Spitfire is the perfect project, no compromisses.
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The Focke Wulf broke at -3.8G~-4.0G. I could not anchieve more than -2.0G in the spitfire, maybe if i trim the spitifire negative i ll. I ll try later. In principle appears to me that spitfire has much better G endurance in 4.10. Why? Ask TD.
You just said that the Spitfire could pull fewer negative Gs. This probably has a lot to do with lower average speed and the nose-up trim tendency of the Spitfire. What has that got to do with G endurance? If you could get the Spit to pull 3-4 negative Gs it would break as well. All it means is that an FW-190 can escape more easily in a bunt as long as the pilot is careful. That make sense?

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Old 12-30-2010, 09:10 PM
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Ok. But how about the positive g's? Check the messages before this one. However i do not tried to trim the Spitfire to verify if it can go to more negative G's yet. Appears it had some positive trim on take off/start.

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Old 12-30-2010, 09:12 PM
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Dunno, didn't read that far back, haha. Does sound odd, but it doesn't mean it is wrong in principle. I don't know what either aircraft was stressed to achieve off the top of my head.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:19 PM
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Have a read through this, Ernst. EDIT: In fact you posted in that thread, you've probably read it all already.
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Old 12-30-2010, 09:20 PM
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Dunno, didn't read that far back, haha. Does sound odd, but it doesn't mean it is wrong in principle. I don't know what either aircraft was stressed to achieve off the top of my head.
I just tried the negative g's because Kwiatek asked me for. Certainly he asked because he wanted that i observe something myself. But he do not come back to explain what.
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