Wich joystick to buy?

[mazex]

Originally Posted by Bloblast

Yep the MS FFB2 was big but good, but do not work with Windows Vista nor 7.

Currently I use Logitech Force 3d Pro which is good as well smaller and therefore user friendlier.

Well, my MSFFB2 worked just fine in Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate. Don't know about Vista as I never touched it even with a stick... It's now retired and replaced by a G940 - and no, I will never sell it The G940 may break down some day...

[Bloblast]

Originally Posted by mazex

Well, my MSFFB2 worked just fine in Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate. Don't know about Vista as I never touched it even with a stick... It's now retired and replaced by a G940 - and no, I will never sell it The G940 may break down some day...

I did not work with Vista I find out. There was no dynamic in the force any more.
I did not try it with Windows 7, do they have new driver for it?

[Qpassa]

MikkOwl : Believe or not but you represent a lot of us in Logitech Forums!

[WTE_Galway]

Originally Posted by mazex

Well, my MSFFB2 worked just fine in Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate. Don't know about Vista as I never touched it even with a stick... It's now retired and replaced by a G940 - and no, I will never sell it The G940 may break down some day...

Yeah I have looked at the G940, it seems it gets the occasional bad user review for quality (I think some sticks must be turning up broken) but overall people seem impressed, it looks like a good stick.

If the matching rudders had been FFB I would probably trade in my FFB2 and CH pro pedals.

[zakkandrachoff]

first, get the sim
them, mi priority is get a joystick wireless. is so difficult to me , in middle of a dogfight lock the other plane whit the mouse ( mousse in my left hand) and joystick in the right hand and i have the cable in the middle, because i need get the joystick center with my body (in my penis ,yes, i said it!) i don't know how do the American F16 pilot whit the joystick in the right (i can't concentrate)
so .. i am more in the search of a wireless joystick. cant found it

with the clickable panel i don't have problem, i change the mouse to the other hand for a few seconds.

simples
*Saitek Aviator Joystick (Saitek AV8R-01 Aviator, PS41 Aviator Joystick)
*Saitek Cyborg X Joystick (i will buy this, after sow release)
* Saitek ST290 Pro PC Flight Stick

then , more complex
* Saitek X52 Flight Control System
* thrustmaster t-flight hotas x

i dont recomend separate josticks

[Armatian]

You should really consider two things:

The cyborg stick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e4lqyLwOis

Use freetrack, there's no way you could have the same precision using both mouse & joystick.

There's a simpler software, that worked wonders for me: http://freelook.glenmurphy.com/download.php

[Bloblast]

Are there any WWII looking sticks with force feedback?

[zakkandrachoff]

Originally Posted by Armatian

You should really consider two things:

The cyborg stick:

Use freetrack, there's no way you could have the same precision using both mouse & joystick.

There's a simpler software, that worked wonders for me: http://freelook.glenmurphy.com/download.php

very tanks for the data! the more interesting thing in that video is the dead movemment that have the stick and the computer dont register that little movement. cyborg is trash.
i willresearch more info about that Thrustmaster T.16000M and the saitek aviator.
is another good flight stick ??but only one piece, no feedback apart.

[zakkandrachoff]

this saitek x52 is amazing, but more expensive. have everything. and a little mousse control (for doa little view over our head in middle of dogfight) .

[MikkOwl]

Yes, I fight for our cause a bit with Logitech when it comes to the G940...

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The Cyborgs are extremely nasty, and I mean extremely! I handled them. They have a skeletonized structure with adjustable (sounds good on paper but sucks in practice) parts/sections. The thing flexes.. Trying to push a thumb button with the thumb and the whole top part will flex forward, not just the button. I'm glad I tried it before buying before. Junk.

The Saitek Aviator felt pretty good. It is twisty but is more stable/rigid, not flimsy like the Logitech 3D Pro. The design looks good and is very suited for WW2 planes. PC version has a split twin throttle which is cool too - can fly multi-engined planes or have a throttle + prop pitch for example. I tried to order the PC version but they were out of stock everywhere. Only the console versions, which have single throttle only. Went with the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro instead, which I already mentioned. This was before the G940.

I also handled a Logitech Attack3 or whatever it was called. Was even cheaper than the 3D Pro and was not twist stick - I quite liked the feeling of it.

Saitek X52 looked and felt quite nasty. Surprisingly so. G940 feels and looks like a wet dream in comparison.