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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

View Poll Results: Would you be willing to pay for additional contend?
yes 93 36.19%
no 125 48.64%
not sure 39 15.18%
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:05 AM
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Here is why I would say no to this one. Although I do own ROF and have paid a bit into there system to get most but not all of their planes, I would very much not like to see IL2 games loose their Open Source type of approach. All of the Modded Content for IL2 46 really kept the sim interesting and even today keeps it at a fun for hours level that CLOD has not yet achieved in my opinion. Someone already said it on page one of this thread and I would have to agree, that with everyone everywhere able to generate skins, campaigns, graphics, and sound mods for the game it really does make the the replay value of the sim soar.

Waiting for single airplanes to be added or new skins or modes to be added and then paying for them each individually would probably go over just as well as waiting for the current updates have Plus it would leave large gaps of time where the sim would be unchanged and people would be off trying other things and forget about the sim entirely. LOL I log on to mission4today just about every other day and its like Christmas every time when there are new campaigns or mods to check out which is almost every time I log on Any way I would much rather get new XPACS for the sim and pay for those just like we did with all the early IL2 series. And while we wait for the next one to come out all those epic Modders and campaign creators out there will keep the new content flowing freely which is part of what makes these sims so incredible.

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Old 08-27-2011, 06:22 AM
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I'm happy to buy ROF a plane at a time, and I would have gladly bought IL-2 a mod at a time, because I'm happy with the products and trust the developers.

They've never ripped me off.

However, I feel thoroughly ripped off by Clod, and I'd need to see one hell of a lot of improvement before they get one red cent of my money.
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Old 08-27-2011, 06:24 AM
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I voted Yes.

I do not like the actual Clod. I'll never pay for an addon at this stage of dev.

But... I hope that things will change (!). And I could pay for big addon (i.e a small theatre with a map and some planes).
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:05 AM
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Here is why I would say no to this one. Although I do own ROF and have paid a bit into there system to get most but not all of their planes, I would very much not like to see IL2 games loose their Open Source type of approach. All of the Modded Content for IL2 46 really kept the sim interesting and even today keeps it at a fun for hours level that CLOD has not yet achieved in my opinion. Someone already said it on page one of this thread and I would have to agree, that with everyone everywhere able to generate skins, campaigns, graphics, and sound mods for the game it really does make the the replay value of the sim soar.

Waiting for single airplanes to be added or new skins or modes to be added and then paying for them each individually would probably go over just as well as waiting for the current updates have Plus it would leave large gaps of time where the sim would be unchanged and people would be off trying other things and forget about the sim entirely. LOL I log on to mission4today just about every other day and its like Christmas every time when there are new campaigns or mods to check out which is almost every time I log on Any way I would much rather get new XPACS for the sim and pay for those just like we did with all the early IL2 series. And while we wait for the next one to come out all those epic Modders and campaign creators out there will keep the new content flowing freely which is part of what makes these sims so incredible.

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I do agree wholeheartely. When I posted the question it didn't even cross my mind to cut out modders and the community in creating additional content.

The openness of the game must be preserved of course, that is one of the hallmarks of the IL2 series.
I missed formulating that in my original post. I was really aming along the lines of RoF, i.e. planes and field mods, maybe a skin pack and mind you, nobody puts a gun to your head and tells you you have to buy it, I only purchased planes from RoF,not all, and no field mods so far.
Exansion packs from 1C have always been at a charge (pacific fighters). I really meant little things, as stated, to give 1C some kind of cash flow.

And like I said, the sim should have been released in a better state, but then again IL2 original seems to have been in a pretty pathetic state upon release as well, according to community statements.
The concern, real or just perceived, I am having right now is that the dev team still is made up of human beings who have bills to pay, and if those guys do not get paychecks anymore, well then the sim is really lost and that would certainly be a shame.

To all who take a tougher stand, and there seem to be quite a lot, understandably, it is not as if we have a plethora of WWII sims available, IL2 1946 is of course still there but with CEM, airplane and damage modeling and the arguably nice graphics in CoD this one is more than worth being developed over the coming years.

I guess my point is, money is the fuel that makes every business engine run and microtransactions would just be one source the dev team could tap to keep going in the long run.

Btw., I am not sure what it is, but I do consider my comp a rather mid level system and the game runs fine for me, I so far never had a ctd and in the "test" mission I run to see how high I can turn on graphic settings (30 planes, clouds and shadows on, model high, textures original, ssao on, everything else to medium, vsync on in nvidia cp @ 1600x900, AA in game to 1x, looks better than 2x, strange I know) I do not drop under 25 fps. The mission is from the quick missions, the british attack on a german airfield.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:35 AM
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Absolutelly NOT... !
Since we havent yet a full game but only a part of it....and we fully payed for that...
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:35 AM
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Microtransactions = no, that would kill this game for me.
New theater w/ maps, aircraft, campaigns, etc... = sure, after this game is working better and all the original issues (or at least most of them) are worked out.

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I guess my point is, money is the fuel that makes every business engine run and microtransactions would just be one source the dev team could tap to keep going in the long run.
Had they originally sold the game as a micro transaction game that would be fine, I would not have paid $49.99 for it under those circumstances, however...

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Old 08-27-2011, 07:41 AM
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At this stage i dont need addons i like to be able to play the game.
launcher.exe problems all the time.
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Old 08-27-2011, 07:55 AM
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To those who say "but what alternative is there?":

There's at least two WWII flight games i the pipeline, so game developers know there's a WWII interest (though the games may not be sim enough for this crowd).

And I wonder how many program designers don't bother with the full sim aproach as they think IL-2 has the stranglehold on the sim market?

Maybe the best thing for WWII simming would be for this title to die the death it deserves and encourage other developers to fill the hole.
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Old 08-27-2011, 08:04 AM
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Not a snowballs chance in hell will i buy anything from MG again until COD is in a fit state to be called a working sim.

Further more, if MG even offered me downloadable content for a price i would be insulted beyond belief.
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Old 08-27-2011, 08:12 AM
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I voted yes. I actually WOULD pay for additional content. Of course, that would imply that the sim is playable for the majority of people, but that's still to come.

Once that's in place, then yes, I would pay for additional content just like I pay for DLC's for other games on Steam.
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