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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-03-2011, 04:24 PM
MD_Wild_Weasel MD_Wild_Weasel is offline
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i agree with you on that nearmis, but ive heard that oleg has left 1c?. So if our beloved Oleg has left hasnt his brainchild?
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:35 PM
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Oleg hasn't gone anywhere.

The IL2 BOB COD will be the benchmark ww2 air combat simulator.

Just wait...
don't speculate....
it will be your wisdom...


There is nothing to compare that is even close, and until that day comes I doubt Oleg will even take an extended vacation.

MSFT has the money and resources to build a competitive product, but they don't have the leadership to really listen to people and build what people want. That was proven "in spades" with the CFS3.

Oleg reviews the boards and will have discussions with anyone to achieve his desire to build what people want. He has proven that thousands of times in dozens of forums on the internet.

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Old 04-03-2011, 04:37 PM
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Great review Mazex, I couldn't have said it better. I just bought Cliffs of Dover yesterday morning and spent the whole day playing with it. I finally got it to run very smooth, averaging about 50 fps. I don't know why all these people have to bash the game and give it 2.0 score. Yes it has some problems but I know they will fix them. I couldn't have been happier about my purchase, Thank you 1C for this great game! And thank you to the person who posted about Justflight info(thats the only place you can get this game in the US), so I don't have to wait two more weeks
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:47 PM
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i hope your right nearmiss.. i see great potential in COd, but not without Oleg or ilya
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:16 PM
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So let me get this straight, you wrote a review and gave CoD 9.0 based on what it "could be in the future, IF the developer decides to fix it"? Being a bit pressumptious and to be frank a bit of a blinkered fanboy there.

Who in their right mind gives a score based on potential fixes that might not even see the light of day.
Believe me, this even happens with "professional" reviewers then and now. Over here in Germany we have a game magazine called "Gamestar" (no advertisement intended, you just about to see why...), which I used to buy and read for many years. Then the test of "Gothic 3" came, and they rated it 90%, even if it was full of bugs, game breaking glitches and obvious design flaws, that rendered the game almost unplayable at first. Their argument: Yeah, it's full of bugs, but we're sure they'll be fixed via patch.

I never bought another issue of that magazine afterwards again.

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CoD does have potential but potential is not a tangible measurable thing, it is definatetly not something you can use to artificially bump up the score for what is essentailly a bug ridden mess right now.

At most CoD should be getting around 50% for effort and no more, certainly not 90 based on what might be and what you want it to be.
Absolutely agree on anything you said. There is lot of potential, but due to its' crucial status it's simply not worth any rating over 50%, yet. More, it's simply unfair to rate higher for things that "might happen". I can understand that people want to support Oleg and his crew, but what about first time customers who buy a game only because of such ratings? Yes, their money will end up at Oleg/1C/Ubi, but once they find out that things are not working properly, they'll most likely feel cheated (remember: New costumers might not know about the original IL-2 got treated with updates). In the end, they'll not only dislike the game, but also the community who advertised the product in an "un-honest" way.

Of course I'm more than willing to change a personal rating after the major flaws are ironed out, but that'll take some time. I just hope the game will get the chance to show it's full potential eventually.

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Old 04-03-2011, 05:19 PM
MD_Wild_Weasel MD_Wild_Weasel is offline
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i guess well have to wait till tomorrow and see if luthier can deliver the first patch with an official reponse. Fingers crossed gents.
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:02 PM
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Mazex, thumbs up on the review!

I have never been on a forum with opinions ranging from one extreme to the next like this one. People shooting fast from the hip with a "take no prisoner" attitude. Just fantastic reading these last few weeks guys, and hell, I don't even have my copy yet. One things for certain though, I will be getting my hands on one!

Cliffs of Dover has to be a masterpiece... nothing short of pure evil or greatness can come from such a release.

Never has so much been crowed by so many, to so few!
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Old 04-03-2011, 08:13 PM
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I said it before and I'll say it again.

The people that are into software piracy are mad as hell.

They have been driving us nuts talking down on the forums, since the release of BOB COD on steam.

The future will require piracy protection... and the future is now.

All the bit about "I won't buy it, etc" --- LOL ---- They weren't planning to buy it anyway.

Hang on the ride maybe a bit bumpy. The end will be an awesome BOB COD.

Just check on the stats on some of the pirate sites how many illegal downlaods of IL2 there have been.
I remember reviewing such a site several years back, on that one site they had downloaded over 1/2 million copies of IL2 sturmovik 1946.

That is an astronomical theft...

So yeah! something has to be done, done, and done again to protect intellectual property.

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:58 PM
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The low reviews are a total travesty and have accomplished nothing but drive people away from our already weak genre. I'm a huge fan and have alot of respect for what Maddox games has delivered over the last 10 years for our community. I have no respect for those people who have shown absolutely no foresight, with their rating. They will be proven wrong in spades, but much damage has already been done to our community and genre. Luckily a few of the professional reviewers have shown some intelligence and have delayed their reviews until the game is patched.
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Old 04-03-2011, 09:10 PM
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9.0 superb
When they fix the premature birth problems that make it almost unplayable, this will be THE ultimate WWII simulator.
LOL, I wouldn't call this thing you wrote 'a review'.
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