Friday 2010-08-27 Dev. update and Discussions

[AndyJWest]

Originally Posted by Richie

What's this? Dec 31 but doesn't really look impressive.




http://www.ign.com/_views/ign/ign_ti...e=us&offset=50

What's that? Nothing really. A link to a website that seems to have the release date as either December 2010, or April 2008, depending where you look. Totally meaningless, without further information.

[Buglord]

Thanks for the update.

[BG-09]

Originally Posted by proton45

We should see the physical reaction of the "damage model" on the humans/pilots/animals, but we should be spared the "graphic carnage"...

TO BE MORE CLEAR ON MY OPINION...body's should be thrown about (like "rag dolls") by the shock wave, but we should not see blood, or dismemberment. Bullets and crashes and other aspects of the damage model that are included in the new game should have a realistic impact on the "human analog" but ONLY in a "rag doll" effect...

What do you kind folks think?

p.s. Of course these options should be selectable...




I have often imagined a "pilots reflection" in the glass or chrome or mirrors....

Very wise variant! Rag doll! Perfect. No blood. Perfect solution!

Originally Posted by proton45

TO BE MORE CLEAR ON MY OPINION...body's should be thrown about (like "rag dolls") by the shock wave, but we should not see blood, or dismemberment. Bullets and crashes and other aspects of the damage model that are included in the new game should have a realistic impact on the "human analog" but ONLY in a "rag doll" effect...

What do you kind folks think?

p.s. Of course these options should be selectable...

I like that idea, much better than nothing at all, it would still be nice to have enable/disable full gore in config though.

[philip.ed]

Sorry

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by BG-09

Yes, it will be good enough. But mate, think about the realism: what will happens, when Ju-87 drops a 1000 kg bomb over double-decker bus in London, full of passengers /as Oleg is planing/ - every body of the passengers "will sleep in a chair"? It does not fit. Or may be, the passengers will fly "sleeping" a 100 meters away?

Cheers!

Mate, i was talking about shot pilots trapped in their safety belts. NOT about busses full of people.

[tourmaline]

Originally Posted by jameson

I have to say I'm astonished by the belief that the sound on that video is accurate. It was obviously a real aeroplane making the sound, but which one I wouldn't like to say. Gun cameras did not record sound, it was added after the event most likely with whatever was convenient and hanging around.
A cursory watch of numerous episodes of German wartime cinema propaganda clearly show repeat film sequences in engagements that occured at different times and places. Particularly sad are the ones from 1945 supposedly reporting fighting against the Russians that are clearly manufactured to show that the Germans were winning although the Russians were probably shelling Berlin by the time they were shown.
Take it all with a big pinch of salt. Especially now it's possible to fabricate anything in this digital age. See Hollywood, wikipedia, lol!
Regards

It still sounds better then any other videogame sound.

[zapatista]

Oleg & Co,

thx for the updates

excellent looking screenshot of the bomber crew looking out the window

one concern: the hurricane pilot still looks way to small, and i cant see the feet of the german pilot in the bomber reaching the rudder pedal ? i suspect the "small pilot" problem still hasnt been resolved ? (not a big deal, fix it after release if it takes to much time now)

[Oldschool61]

Originally Posted by Chivas

Personally I don't need a pilot, that will just be in the way of my view of the instruments. .

Do you sit on your instruments??Last I checked most guages are in front of the pilot not under the seat. Next time your driving look down and see if your seat is empty, I'll bet you see something besides your empty seat.
And looking down in the pit and NOT seeing a torso and legs on rudder pedals does detract from immersion a bit. How is that going to prevent you from reading gauges? Most of the stuff you need to see is high enough above the flight stick that its not an issue. If this sim is going to be realistic in first person mode you need to see your body in pit. Anything less is unrealistic. Hell most first person shooters do this.

[IceFire]

Originally Posted by tourmaline

It still sounds better then any other videogame sound.

Yes and no... it has a richness to it yes but the sounds are not synchronized to events and they don't have proper characteristics when it comes to distance from the observer. They were added on top for appeal purposes only.

In some ways IL-2's sound is incredible... it does a lot of things right dynamically on the right sound setup. It's just that the limited range of sounds gives everything a more generic feel.