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Do we speak about service ceiling or absolute ceiling?
Regards Varrattu
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We speak about the ingame FM limitations.
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I believe the absolute ceiling, the service ceiling for the 109E should be 11.000m, a bit higher then the spit mkII with 10.500, afaik.
The absolute ceiling is again a bit higher, so that some superior spit II would be able to climb above a worn out 109.
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Service ceiling = max alt where your plane still hve a certain rate of climb
Max ceiling = max alt where your plane still can fly level |
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Thank you for clarification.
Do you have any idea concerning the relation between iL2COD air pressure and iL2COD flight model. As far as I know it is important for discussions in connection with the ceiling. Regards Varrattu
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I do not know any document from Daimler Benz, Messerschmitt or Rechlin, which reports a BF109-E ceiling above 7500 meter. Long story short, a the ceiling of 10,000 meter with a real DB601A-1 in a real BF109-E was not possible. ~S~
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http://www.kurfurst.org/Performance_...chreibung.html "Dienstgipfelhöhe. Die Dienstgipfelhöhe beträgt bei voller Ausrüstung 11 000 m." Service ceiling. The service ceiling is 11 000 meters with a fully equipped aircraft. Note that this is service ceiling. Service ceiling is an altitude at which the aircraft could still climb at defined rate of climb, from memory it was defined by the Germans at 0,5 m/sec in other docs. So the absolute ceiling (climb = 0 m/sec) is a bit higher.
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Some time ago I made some tests in IL2 COD, and became to the conclussion that the info that the developers used was for the engine DB601A-1 bei altem lader (VDH/FTH 4 km) (old compressor).
Those tests were made with patch version 145.50. I never tested again in the actual patch but I reckon it remains the same. The same engine with the new compressor (Bei neuem lader) with 13 blades, DB601A-1 bei neuem lader** (VDH/FTH 4,5 km) gave better performance in RL. See the graphs below, red curve is my test, fits pretty accurately with the specifications for the engine with the older compressor. OLD COMPRESSOR ![]() NEW COMPRESSOR ![]()
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I am looking for BF109-E documents from Daimler Benz, Messerschmitt or Rechlin, not for wikipedia-like web sites. I didn't find any document on your site dealing with a whatever 11.000 m ceiling concerning a E-version.
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