Patch v1.02.14821 Bug thread

[Blackdog_kt]

I don't thing they fixed any FM's yet, they just changed how the 109's prop pitch controls work (the control logic, not the actual propeller type, it's still fully manual). I mean, all aircraft are still slow compared to their real life figures and the only one that comes close is the Spit Mk.II, hence why most servers don't use it.

As for the Mk.Ia check the similarly named thread, i posted a few links about CEM that might help people get a bit more performance out of it. I rarely fly Spits and i yet have no trouble getting a Spit with the two-speed propeller to 250mph IAS or more at more than 10000ft (and as a result, an even higher TAS) with very moderate power settings.

[Buzpilot]

Originally Posted by Blackdog_kt

I don't thing they fixed any FM's yet, they just changed how the 109's prop pitch controls work (the control logic, not the actual propeller type, it's still fully manual). I mean, all aircraft are still slow compared to their real life figures and the only one that comes close is the Spit Mk.II, hence why most servers don't use it.

As for the Mk.Ia check the similarly named thread, i posted a few links about CEM that might help people get a bit more performance out of it. I rarely fly Spits and i yet have no trouble getting a Spit with the two-speed propeller to 250mph IAS or more at more than 10000ft (and as a result, an even higher TAS) with very moderate power settings.

If it's ok above 10,000 feet, why don't they simply lock the second stage until that hight then if you run it without CEM?
Now it automaticly shift to second pitch right after takeoff, and only option is to run with CEM activated.
Or is it too complicated to fix?
But the main question was this; Is the second pitch angle real? I mean, it sure don't feel real.

, the developers put second pitch to the max extended rotol setting. Is there any documentation for this? Really?

Can still fly hurricane with a wing missing

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

If it's ok above 10,000 feet, why don't they simply lock the second stage until that hight then if you run it without CEM?
Now it automaticly shift to second pitch right after takeoff, and only option is to run with CEM activated.
Or is it too complicated to fix?
But the main question was this; Is the second pitch angle real? I mean, it sure don't feel real.

When flying with CEM off it's like giving control of the CEM to the AI autopilot. This one probably follows the recommended manual procedures and that's why it sticks to high pitch/low RPM setting. Strange as it may sound, that's how these planes were meant to be flown according to the pilot's operating handbook (it's the same in the Blenheim Mk.IV).

The problem comes from the fact that the AI doesn't change back to low pitch/high RPM when your speed gets too low, which is what a real pilot would do to accelerate and then switch back to high pitch/low RPM setting.

It's like gears in a car, high RPM to start and accelerate, low RPM for fuel economy in cruise and higher top speeds. The problem is that once you start maneuvering and bleed off some speed you need to vary the pitch setting to get back the speed you lost and the AI doesn't do it for you.

It could be fixed for sure (it's just a simple trigger to the tune of "go to high RPM when speed falls below X mph, go to low RPM when speed climbs above X mph), but it would also create one more problem even if it did do it automatically: boost levels rise and fall with the change in RPM, so even if the AI helper was correctly manipulating pitch with CEM off, you would still need to be on your toes and vary the throttle appropriately during the changes.

In the meantime, i think it's no biggie flying them with CEM on, it only has two settings and if you disable temp effects (which takes care of the radiator) you get all the control you need for minimal hassle.

[Buzpilot]

In the meantime, i think it's no biggie flying them with CEM on, it only has two settings and if you disable temp effects (which takes care of the radiator) you get all the control you need for minimal hassle.

Comments like this, only make developers not taking this problem serious, I fly with CEM too, but If they think all newcomers do,or this is a healthy buisiness model, I think they are serious wrong IMO.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

Comments like this, only make developers not taking this problem serious, I fly with CEM too, but If they think all newcomers do,or this is a healthy buisiness model, I think they are serious wrong IMO.

Actually, comments like this are intended to let people who face problems have some fun until the developers fix things, instead of simply having to wait it out while doing nothing. I choose to focus on what is under my direct control to improve my entertainment factor and help others do the same, how the developers will interpret it is not my concern because what they decide to do is definitely not under my control.

In layman's terms, we can either fly or speculate in the forums, but not both at the same time. I like to help people fly