Games so Crap no one plays it online?

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by TexRoadkill

The game will die because dickheads like you will be sending them all messages telling them to play another game.

Being a narcissistic asshole you probably don't know a few things:
1. If you shoot a plane and render it unable to fly and the plane crashes you will not get the kill.
2. If you shoot up the engine and the player lands or crashes before you can finish them off you will not get the kill.
3. If you are chasing down a plane and he stalls and crashes you will not get the kill.
4. The only way you can get the kill is by killing the pilot with bullets or a big fiery mid-air explosion.

So stop whining and learn to shoot.

You sound like the Arsehole to me, not Red Tiger.

1. Do you think it's fair that the player doesn't the get the kill when he has damaged a plane enough for it to be unable to fly? That player has downed another and should be counted a kill.

2. If a player destroys anothers engine and forces him to crash or crash land, that should be a kill, no doubt about it. If the other player manages to land safely then thats ok (but they would be quite a sitting duck for the guy to finish off don't you think?)

3. One player forcing another into a controlled or uncontroled flight into terrain would be considered a kill. This is rather hard to put into a game though unless a sucessfull shot has been taken by the persuer, then last player to get a hit should receive the kill.

4. Almost all kills in WWII were not huge explosions and many times the pilot was able to bail out. Why is that not the same for this game?


This is a big mistake by the developers. Ace combat 6 made exactly the same mistake, people were firing off all their missiles like crazy and then crashing on purpose to get a new load. People would get a bit damaged and then just find the nearest mountain to plow into before someone killed them and got the points. It was crazy before the patch that gave a big penalty for any crash, this caused a masive drop in crashers.

Once the whole world can buy IL2 BoP A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing. And adding some programing that says last person to get a shot on the crashing plane gets the kill would also be welcome.

[TexRoadkill]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

You sound like the Arsehole to me, not Red Tiger.

1. Do you think it's fair that the player doesn't the get the kill when he has damaged a plane enough for it to be unable to fly? That player has downed another and should be counted a kill.

2. If a player destroys anothers engine and forces him to crash or crash land, that should be a kill, no doubt about it. If the other player manages to land safely then thats ok (but they would be quite a sitting duck for the guy to finish off don't you think?)

3. One player forcing another into a controlled or uncontroled flight into terrain would be considered a kill. This is rather hard to put into a game though unless a sucessfull shot has been taken by the persuer, then last player to get a hit should receive the kill.

4. Almost all kills in WWII were not huge explosions and many times the pilot was able to bail out. Why is that not the same for this game?


This is a big mistake by the developers. Ace combat 6 made exactly the same mistake, people were firing off all their missiles like crazy and then crashing on purpose to get a new load. People would get a bit damaged and then just find the nearest mountain to plow into before someone killed them and got the points. It was crazy before the patch that gave a big penalty for any crash, this caused a masive drop in crashers.

Once the whole world can buy IL2 BoP A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing. And adding some programing that says last person to get a shot on the crashing plane gets the kill would also be welcome.

I didn't make the game. Just informing him of why he wasn't getting credit for the kills.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by TexRoadkill

I didn't make the game. Just informing him of why he wasn't getting credit for the kills.

lol no, what you did was go off on one because he said that people were unfairly crashing to avoid being killed. That may well kill the public lobby side of BoP. It has happened to games before, the public online has failed and slowly the whole game online dies. He is totaly right. It needs to be fixed.

Players will not like feeling cheated out of kills thanks to crashers and will stop playing, Don't you think they have a right to be pissed off with the people who are taking advantage of a game flaw?. Trust me it will happen, you will see people kamakaziing the landscape untill all you can see is fire.

[Yossarian]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

A public room Online will become a no kills ,crash fest if nothing is done to discourage crashing.

It already is.

Then last game I played was for 20 minutes. The winner had TWO kills and had crashed EIGHTEEN times.

They need to patch the online part of the game or I will not bother playing it. Who wants to play a game for 20 mins and get no kills because they all either crashed or bailed, it's just not fun.

[Robotic Pope]

Originally Posted by Yossarian

It already is.

Then last game I played was for 20 minutes. The winner had TWO kills and had crashed EIGHTEEN times.

They need to patch the online part of the game or I will not bother playing it. Who wants to play a game for 20 mins and get no kills because they all either crashed or bailed, it's just not fun.

You know it makes me wonder if the developers were given any time at all to play test the multiplayer. If I was a tester the first time I crashed I would think "oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... Wait, that could be a problem, that isn't fair play and WILL be exploited." ""Oi developer guy over here, We got a big problem""

[Intifadah]

People crashing is a pain in the ass. Also hosted a game of capture the airfield at Stalingrad, nobody could locate the airfield at all so it was essentially a team battle.

And before anyone asks, yes it was capture the airfield, the 500 tickets were visible on-screen, just no airfield

[Tally-Ho]

Originally Posted by Robotic Pope

You know it makes me wonder if the developers were given any time at all to play test the multiplayer. If I was a tester the first time I crashed I would think "oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... Wait, that could be a problem, that isn't fair play and WILL be exploited." ""Oi developer guy over here, We got a big problem""

Remember, you are talking about testers who reported red-outs as a glitch.

So just a quick change to your dialogue

"oh wait I didn't lose anything from crashing hmmm in fact I now have an advantage as I am undamaged and that guy that was behind me filling me with holes is now infront oh and look he didn't get a kill. hmm i will try crashing again when I want a new plane... I did! Mega-Brill-Awesome!"