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Old 09-02-2009, 01:05 AM
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How have i gone off track with what you have said? really?

How old are you? Your very opininated and extremely rude and if im direct and to the point... up your own arse!!

I have not once lowered the tone to a low level but you seem to make rather petty and shitty remarks. If you want to start name calling and acting like a prick, then thats fine..do it!! just not in here and not with me. I work 5 days a week, and damn hard at that. Im here to relax and basically chill out, not get a verbal bashing from some stuck up twat such as yourself.

Get off your high horse, and then we'll talk some more.
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:50 AM
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Perhapes you shouldnt post anymore, Your off the rail's as to the point of this Thread, Your very very rude and clearly abit of a moron. Go start a thread about your pilot Stuff.

just stop annoying people with your silly talk.
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Old 09-02-2009, 02:02 AM
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Riiiigght.... Anyway, back to the topic at hand.

Incase some of you didn't know, the Spitfire and Hurricane in the early Mk's had the same Merlin engine, so it wasn't a matter of power; but of maneuverability and such. The Spitfire is better known because it was more recent, and got more Fighter kills than the Hurricanes. The Hurricanes got more planes all around, but not fighters. That's one of the misconceptions people have about the two planes.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:43 AM
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Perhapes you shouldnt post anymore, Your off the rail's as to the point of this Thread, Your very very rude and clearly abit of a moron. Go start a thread about your pilot Stuff.

just stop annoying people with your silly talk.

That's right, offering verifiable facts that are a matter of historical record clearly makes one a moron. BTW, they produced it until the end of the war because it was easy to mass produce, yet another historical fact, clearly the sign of a moron. Stating that the credit goes to the pilots and not the planes, although any reasonable person would say the same, clearly the definition of a lack of intelligence to the Irish evidently. Taking statements about the viability of the Spitfire and Mosquito versus the Hurricane directly from statements made by the developer and also the pilots that flew them, pure insanity. The earlier question about whether or not the Soviets used the Spitfire, why that's just absurd. Clearly, I should have invested all of my time gaining the opinion of a pair of twelve year olds from the UK instead of pursuing the actual facts at an accredited university.

Twelve year olds aside, Soviet Ace, which Russian squadrons used the Spitfire? I have been trying to find more information on them after you mentioned it, back before the useless Hurricane war came about, but haven't been able to find much. Also, what roles did the Russians use the Spitfire in, what battles, etc.? If you also know what all models they used that would be helpful.
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:47 AM
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Well state them in a manner Which isnt Rude, If that even possible for you. and where are you from, Because your irish comment prove what a utter jerk you are
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:06 AM
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Well state them in a manner Which isnt Rude, If that even possible for you. and where are you from, Because your irish comment prove what a utter jerk you are
Thanks for proving my point. Next question Soviet Ace, what all American planes did the Russians use in WW II? I saw that they also used the P-40 somewhere, but it almost seems like the Russians are deliberately trying to dissuade people from learning about their use of foreign fighters in favor of promoting the Soviets planes. I applaud their sense of nationalism but it makes it a pain in the ass to learn more about their role in the war.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:11 AM
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Oh oh ive got a good question, What planes did france use during WW2?

Me and my american friend were wondering, I dont think they had any of there own because they got put out off the war Thats what i think.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:46 AM
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Oh oh ive got a good question, What planes did france use during WW2?

Me and my american friend were wondering, I dont think they had any of there own because they got put out off the war Thats what i think.
FIGHTERS
Dewoitine D.520
Morane Saulnier MS.406
Arsenal VG 33
Bloch MB 152

BOMBERS
Amiot 350 Series

ATTACK
Breguet 690 Series

RECON & PATROL
Bloch M.B.174

TRANSPORT
Caudron C.440 Seagull

LIAISON DUTY
Breguet Bre.19

TRAINERS
Caudron Sandstorm
Caudron C.690

The French contracted with Curtiss for 140 P-40B's, but surrendered before they could be delivered. These were then diverted to the RAF. The Free French operating out of bases in southern England used a variety of planes, though they mainly flew Spitfires, P-51B Mustangs and operated two squadrons of A-20 Havocs carrying both British and Free French markings.

The vichy (nazi collaborating bastards) French generally flew Dewoitine D.520 fighters with bright yellow tail sections, excluding the rudder, to identify them to Luftwaffe pilots. The markings were later changed to red and yellow horizontal stripes. The majority of the vichy air force was annihilated by American F-4F's operating from the USS Ranger during Operation Torch.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:17 AM
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Thanks for proving my point. Next question Soviet Ace, what all American planes did the Russians use in WW II? I saw that they also used the P-40 somewhere, but it almost seems like the Russians are deliberately trying to dissuade people from learning about their use of foreign fighters in favor of promoting the Soviets planes. I applaud their sense of nationalism but it makes it a pain in the ass to learn more about their role in the war.
List of US/Soviet Lend-Lease

P-39Q
P-400
P-40B (Only 4 of them, all were put some where hidden, and forgotten about?)
P-40E
P-40K
B-29 (Not purposely, but the American B-29s that were to damaged to make it back to base, landed in Russia, where the Russians copied the B-29 and gave it a new name etc.)
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:36 AM
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Thanks for proving my point. Next question Soviet Ace, what all American planes did the Russians use in WW II? I saw that they also used the P-40 somewhere, but it almost seems like the Russians are deliberately trying to dissuade people from learning about their use of foreign fighters in favor of promoting the Soviets planes. I applaud their sense of nationalism but it makes it a pain in the ass to learn more about their role in the war.
Here is an interesting article about the Spitfire Vbs operated by the 57h GIAP. If you have been looking around you will probably have come across this anyway but here is the link http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/englis...spit/index.htm.
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