IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

This is kind of my point.

Other people have done a lot of the work on different parts of this game.

The B-24, or any other flight models, are just examples.

Daidalos is the only real official source for everything to come under one download so everyone that has the game can be on the same version, as much as possible.

Daidalos, in my humble opinion (even if it may be an over simplification), should embark on a campaign to utilize all this work available for download as a source for the things they don't have the time to perfect them selves.

I can't imagine, for instance, the people that spent so long to develop the B-24, or B-17 in HSFX wouldn't want to donate, or share their version with Daidalos.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I can't imagine, for instance, the people that spent so long to develop the B-24, or B-17 in HSFX wouldn't want to donate, or share their version with Daidalos.

Apparently, there are some, who wouldn't. There are some more, who would take other's work and put their name on it, without even informing original authors, releasing it as their own "mod".

But it isn't the main (bigger) problem. The main problem is that many, if not most, of the stuff, released as mods are unfinished, or not compliant to technical and/or quality standards, under which DT works. Many modders wouldn't have time/desire/skills to follow those standards, while DT has no resources to fix all the stuff themselves. That is why most of the mod stuff does not get into the official release.

Fresh exhample - the B-17 cockpis, Sita mentioned above. They weren't finished by their author to DT snadrds, DT couldn't help the author, neverthelss, the project, being unfinished, was released as mod.

Also, DT wouldn't release in official add-ons models and textures, taken from other game/software projects and converted by modders into the IL-2, like many mod ground vehicles, some aircraft, etc.

[WhiskeyWhiskey]

I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?

[KG26_Alpha]

Standards are there to stop the game engine getting bogged down and keeping things running smoothly.

[SaQSoN]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards

The definition of the word "standard" pretty much unswers this question. Besides,

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

when the finished product works mostly, with a game

...is not true, by far. Not to mention "works mostly" is not compliant with DT standards by itself.

[Ventura]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?

Because if you were the Captain of a proud Ship knowingly going into it's last battle, you would not lower standards. Your last battle is your legacy.

[majorfailure]

Originally Posted by Ventura

Because if you were the Captain of a proud Ship knowingly going into it's last battle, you would not lower standards. Your last battle is your legacy.

Who knows if it is really the last battle? There was one game to replace IL-2, and where is that game now?

[Ventura]

Originally Posted by majorfailure

Who knows if it is really the last battle? There was one game to replace IL-2, and where is that game now?

WhiskeyWhiskeys question was regarding 'standards':
Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

"I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?"

The topic is:"IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite"

I'm not being facetious, but where exactly are you going with this?
Maybe you want to start a new topic?

[Tuphlandng]

Originally Posted by Ventura

WhiskeyWhiskeys question was regarding 'standards':
Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

"I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?"

The topic is:"IL2 Mod Makers and Daidalos should Unite"

I'm not being facetious, but where exactly are you going with this?
Maybe you want to start a new topic?

Dying out???? I have only had IL2 for 10 years It cant die out LOL
Lasted lounger then Cliffs of Dover And for Me 2 days after I purchased COD i learned that it was no lounger being supported by the developers. Team Daidalos and the modders are what keep us players interested.

To everyone working on IL2 From the TD Modders Map makers and skinners Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
Your All the best

[gaunt1]

Originally Posted by WhiskeyWhiskey

I guess I would wonder why it would matter to be so picky with standards when the finished product works mostly, with a game that is dying out?

It looks like Battle of Stalingrad will also be unable to replace IL-2.
Main strenght of good old IL-2 is that lots of people fly allied and even japanese planes. Where else do you find them other than in IL-2? CloD is dead, DCS:ww2 is still in deveopment (and will be for many years), and the older sims, like CFS3, well, better not speak of them.
And not only this. People who mainly like late german or soviet planes, BoS will still be a disappointment. Probably some Yak-9, La5, Bf-109G6+, Fw-190A4+ variants will be included later in the sim, but that will also take lots of time, and not in the same quantity as in IL-2. For people who like flying bombers (like me), IL-2 is still much better. Pe-8, Il-4, Ju-88, A-20, etc. will probably never make it to BoS.
And if TD eventually releases night fighters with working radars...
So while certainly lost some popularity, I would not call IL-2 dying out.
TD is the main reason why IL-2 is still lives, (and getting better and better!) and many many thanks for it!