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[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by Pike

Dear BoBB4,
Yes you did not mention any aircraft type..........but I did not mean that you actually tried to start the manoeuvre at 50mph....that would be impossible and stupid. I was just queerying at what speed you actually started the manoeuvre to end up - say three quarters through at 50mph.
regards,
Pike.

You have obviously never seen me fly online "impossible and stupid" basically describes my flying to a tee.
In a DR1 most probabily at not less than 80mph with an expected bleed of say 30 mph or less as I climb-up and roll over before an immediate nose down to regain some speed.
The SE5a just a smidgen faster.
The manouver is basically one designed to bleed speed most of the time (not always) to drop on to a faster plane, on your six, by forcing an overshoot.
It also depends on the sim you are flying, I am talking OFF.