The so called "no-loss" concept (whole game) is wrong and stupid.

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

ok easy with droid (with the mod with all units at start)

You mean... easy, with cheats. Right. Even easier with a mod to make all your units invulnerable I think, and for battles to automatically win themselves in round 1.

[Razorflame]

Originally Posted by tiberiu

You mean... easy, with cheats. Right. Even easier with a mod to make all your units invulnerable I think, and for battles to automatically win themselves in round 1.

I already done a no loss on first island with all chars so what are you complaining when i restart and just have all units?

i'm not gonna try a 100 times again just for a good RNG and luck that the black knight and the necromancer don't cast any damaging spells on my real units

and when u pass that you have hundres of battles left killing undead with a 80% consistent viking army? i've done that so many times u will use something to change the game (and the all units mod isn't a real cheat anyway

you still need the money/leadership in the beginning (which isn't infite by then)

it becomes infinite when u have a strong stack already in your army


and why in fucks name would you call a no loss stupid if it's possible? There are alot of ways to win a war and some don't have casualties you just have to be smart and outhink your opponent

Why else would there be ambushes in real combat
mines which are hidden they only cause casualties on the other side
airstrikes etc etc

if you have the better tech and skills you will win a war without a lot of casualties of even without casualties

[tiberiu]

Originally Posted by Razorflame

I already done a no loss on first island with all chars so what are you complaining when i restart and just have all units?

No need to get angry and use bad language son. I am not complaining, but the discussion was about a challange. You came out and said "oh yes I can do that, using mods" and I just pointed out that cheating doesn't mean you complete the challange.

i'm not gonna try a 100 times again just for a good RNG and luck that the black knight and the necromancer don't cast any damaging spells on my real units

Nobody is forcing you do do anything. I find it weird how can you enjoy bad AI. When the knight and the necromancer cast damaging spells on your units, they are playing well. I guess some enjoy weaker challanges. Like playing chess with an opponent that has no queen. Good for you, but don't force your opinions on others.

and when u pass that you have hundres of battles left killing undead with a 80% consistent viking army? i've done that so many times u will use something to change the game (and the all units mod isn't a real cheat anyway)

Of course it's a cheat Because you give yourself advantages in unfair ways. Having access to all units in the game right from the start is something that qualifies as unfair advantage, regardless of any other BS about how you "still need money" - which is in more then enough quantity anyway, and about how you "still need leadership" - because you just don't compare the same amount of leadership worth of paladins with the same amount of leadership worth of peasants. Unleass you enjoy cheating, which is obvious that you do.

and why in fucks name would you call a no loss stupid if it's possible? There are alot of ways to win a war and some don't have casualties you just have to be smart and outhink your opponent

So why do I call stupid the fact that It is possible to do something that is described as Impossible/Invincible? um,. because.. it is? Beating 1000 bears with 1 royal snake is stupid in my opinion and it is my birthright to express my opinion, even if you or anybody else dislikes that.

[Razorflame]

well if u completed first island with all chars what is next to do?

killing the spider boss? ez too if u get trolls


then what?

then i use mods wotn is the most boring part of KB countless of undead fights -.-

and to be honest i find it so amusing you saying oh something is impossible to it should be impossible lmao


if all people would think like that we would still live in the stone age rofl

[Nevar]

I would just like to chime in on cheating.

I don't believe there is anything incredibly wrong with cheating in single player. I play with mods on other games like Skyrim and Fallout all the time, some of which arguably make the game easier. However, when I do that, it's because of quality-of-life reasons. e.g. I am scared to death of rats, so I installed a mod for making rats run away instead of fighting me. In a similar vein, I modded New Vegas so I had more inventory space, because walking back and forth to a safe storage or even just swapping equipment with npc companions is annoying and takes away from my satisfaction.

In a similar vein, having more units available at the start of WotN is because the first four islands are just REALLY ANNOYING to do with Vikings. I played through that once already. I'm not going to do it again on a new playthrough.

Cheating on competitive multiplayer games on the other hand, is just wrong, since you're taking away from the enjoyment of others by having an unfair advantage against them, which can ruin the experience for them.