Friday the 14th Development Update

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by lokitexas

So, as a customer, its our job to help fix the product we paid for? And if we dont, we are part of the problem?

you have the right to buy as much coca cola as you want and then get diabetes
you have the right to eat as many hamburgers as you want and then clog your arteries and die prematurely of a heart attack
you also have the right to vote in a corrupt president who then lets his crony friends plunder your national coffers and kill off the american empire in one big swoop

and you also have the right not to do any background reading and go buy any software game you want and end up with a dud but why come and complain about it ? a little homework before putting down your cash would have shown you the risk, to late to complain now padre, all you got left now is the crying over spilled milk

if however you are in the hope of at some time getting your sweaty little hands on a good complex and advanced ww2 flight simulator, where you gonna go ? not many places eh. now take the beta you have now, add 18 months to 2 years, and voila you have a much better product, one that will be playable and will continue to be worked on for the next years to come (as further expansions or the MMO develop)

so just be grateful you helped in some VERY small way to support further development of a great flightsim, say thank you and be on your way !

[lokitexas]

Originally Posted by zapatista

you have the right to buy as much coca cola as you want and then get diabetics
you have the right to eat as many hamburgers as you want and then clog your arteries and die prematurely of a heart attack
you also have the right to vote in a corrupt president who then lets his crony friends plunder your national coffers and kill off the american empire in one big swoop

you also have the right not to do any background reading and go buy any software game you want and end up with a dud but why come and complain about it ? a little homework before putting down your cash would have shown you the risk, to late to complain now padre, all you got left now is the crying over spilled milk

if however you are in the hope of at some time getting your sweaty little hands on a good complex and advanced ww2 flight simulator, where you gonna go ? not many places eh. now take the beta you have now, add 18 months to 2 years, and voila you have a much better product, one that will be playable and will continue to be worked on for the next years to come (as further expansions or the MMO develop)

so just be grateful you helped in some VERY small way to support further development of a great flightsim, say thank you and be on your way !

Yup, bought on the IL2 name, and regretted ever since. Hoping it would be up to par. Still has not happened.

You sure do talk about "RIGHTS" to do this and that, then say to "move along now"? So the right to drink all the coke I want is ok, but the right to voice an opinion isnt?

People like you make me sick. Hypocrite.

[zapatista]

Originally Posted by lokitexas

Yup, bought on the IL2 name, and regretted ever since. Hoping it would be up to par. Still has not happened.

so do i detect a real flight simulation fan there under the hood ? in that case all i can say is welcome, you have arrived at the last great hope for ww2 aviation fans. the only problem is that it is still under construction, so there is some patient waiting to be done. some of us try and pass the time providing bug reports and suggestions for improvements

but while you are reading the forum, just mind the thread turds left by trolls, and be aware of the mesmerizing swansong from the depressive sirens with the deranged minds who lure you to the cliffs of doom where all is black and ugly

instead, be on the lookout for glimmers of hope and signs of progress, there are some great things in the making

for me and my mid range pc, CoD only just became playable since the last beta patch, but i didnt buy the sim full price at release time because it was quickly evident there were some major problems. seeing the leap forward CoD is from the il2 series, and how much depth and complexity the sim was constructed with, it was an (over) ambitious project from the start (given current hardware). it has some incredible potential however, and you can either try and help it get there, or get stuck in some lamentation look where you forever morn your lost few dollars, your choice

[lokitexas]

Originally Posted by zapatista

so do i detect a real flight simulation fan there under the hood ? in that case all i can say is welcome, you have arrived at the last great hope for ww2 aviation fans. the only problem is that it is still under construction, so there is some patient waiting to be done. some of us try and pass the time providing bug reports and suggestions for improvements

but while you are reading the forum, just mind the thread turds left by trolls, and be aware of the mesmerizing swansong from the depressive sirens with the deranged minds who lure you to the cliffs of doom where all is black and ugly

instead, be on the lookout for glimmers of hope and signs of progress, there are some great things in the making

hint:

Barking up the wrong tree.

I have submitted bug reports, held on hope, talked this game up on other forums, and finally came to the conclusion it just isnt happening. As I said before, the devs might want to make this game good, but obviously cannot.

As a true flight sim fan, I am content now with the DCS series. Clostest thing to consumer flight combat sim on the market. Besides the best sim version of the P-51 to date, it has little to offer in the WWII genre (for now), but that is ok. I would rather enjoy the modern airframes, and wait for more WWII planes from this company, than painfully try to play CLoD, and ignore all the missing features, and bugs. Done it long enough.

Who knows, maybe 777, or another company will have something on the market in the 2 years it will take for 1C to "maybe" have this mess cleaned up, if they are still in business.

Anyway forget all that, this is Luthiers thread, and he will back anytime last night to answer questions. Luthier.....

[Redroach]

Originally Posted by zapatista

you also have the right to vote in a corrupt president who then lets his crony friends plunder your national coffers and kill off the american empire in one big swoop

yeah, that, translated to CoD, is what we all did. But unfortunately, in our case, there was no background reading to do beforehand... not many people could know that this would be a big rip-off.

Originally Posted by zapatista

if however you are in the hope of at some time getting your sweaty little hands on a good complex and advanced ww2 flight simulator, where you gonna go ? not many places eh. now take the beta you have now, add 18 months to 2 years, and voila you have a much better product, one that will be playable and will continue to be worked on for the next years to come (as further expansions or the MMO develop)

so just be grateful you helped in some VERY small way to support further development of a great flightsim, say thank you and be on your way !

And you call yourself Zapatista? That's the biggest insult to Zapata I've seen today

Could someone kindly point me to the area where, excluding engine sounds and tracers, CoD got better in any way over those 18 months? At release, my CoD ran reasonably fast, and it looked even better, if I remember correctly. So... what exactly did those 18 months to us? Anyone?

Yeah, grateful, exactly. You are an agent provocateur, right? I mean, no one can be that naive on his own, free will. Your first name is Ilya, isn't it?
I played along for quite some time, too. Reported bugs as detailedly as possible, defended the simulation from cheap shots while at the same time hoping that all will be well in 6 months' time, as everybody said.
That time has long since passed.

[Walrus1]

Originally Posted by Redroach

Could someone kindly point me to the area where, excluding engine sounds and tracers, CoD got better in any way over those 18 months?

I believe that there is pretty broad consensus that the current patch of the sim runs better, with higher framerates, less CTD and other bugs on a far greater majority of machines than at release.