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Old 09-07-2012, 10:03 PM
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Im hoping more towards the later versions of the P-47D and M/N versions
I suggested the P-47C because it's a relatively simple job to add it and the 3d model of the early series P-47 propeller needs to be changed anyhow. The prop modeled for the P-47 is the wide-bladed version which was only fitted on the D-22 and later versions of the plane.

The P-47D-26 to 30 production blocks would be easy to do since they could use the current 3d model for the P-47D-25.

The P-47D-40 and later production blocks would need the addition of the tail fillet to the 3d model and change to the cockpit (including the K-14 gun sight) as well as DM and FM work.

The P-47N and M models would require more extensive 3d work and new cockpits, as well as FM and DM work. Basically, they'd be entirely new planes, especially the N version which would need new skins due to the extended fuselage.
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Old 09-08-2012, 08:28 AM
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I wish for more ground objects:
A column of British trucks, so the campaign builders don't have to use Russian or American transports in, for example, early MTO scenarios.
More German self-propelled artillery and tank destroyers (Wespe, Hummel, Nashorn, Jagdpanzer IV, short-barreled StuG III)
Armored cars of Sdkfz 221/22/23 and Sdkfz 231/32/33/34/63 series
KV-2

More ships, esp. Royal Navy destroyer and LST Landing Craft
Flak towers maybe?
How about vehicles (esp. German trucks and late-war tanks) camouflaged with foliage?
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Old 09-08-2012, 03:08 PM
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I suggested the P-47C because it's a relatively simple job to add it and the 3d model of the early series P-47 propeller needs to be changed anyhow. The prop modeled for the P-47 is the wide-bladed version which was only fitted on the D-22 and later versions of the plane.

The P-47D-26 to 30 production blocks would be easy to do since they could use the current 3d model for the P-47D-25.

The P-47D-40 and later production blocks would need the addition of the tail fillet to the 3d model and change to the cockpit (including the K-14 gun sight) as well as DM and FM work.

The P-47N and M models would require more extensive 3d work and new cockpits, as well as FM and DM work. Basically, they'd be entirely new planes, especially the N version which would need new skins due to the extended fuselage.
Unfortunately Republic was later bought by companies that are now ultimately owned by the "company that shall not be named" (and associated legal issues) and I doubt we'll see any further variants of the P-47 despite the desire to have something.
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Old 09-09-2012, 10:18 AM
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Unfortunately Republic was later bought by companies that are now ultimately owned by the "company that shall not be named" (and associated legal issues) and I doubt we'll see any further variants of the P-47 despite the desire to have something.
Oh...really???
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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Unfortunately Republic was later bought by companies that are now ultimately owned by the "company that shall not be named" (and associated legal issues) and I doubt we'll see any further variants of the P-47 despite the desire to have something.
Respectfully, I think you're wrong.

Admittedly, my source is Wikipedia, but the evolution of Republic Aviation appears to be:

1965 -> Republic Aviation bought by Fairchild-Hiller
1971 -> Name change to Fairchild Industries
1996 -> Name change to Fairchild-Dornier (Oops, I guess that means no Dornier products! )

After 1996 -> Name changed to Fairchild Aerospace

1999 -> Fairchild Aerospace purchased by Allianz A.G. and Clayton, Dubilier & Rice Inc. Bankruptcy ensues

2003 -> Remaining assets of Fairchild Aerospace purchased by M7.

2010 -> M7 purchased by Ebit Systems.

At no point in time was Republic ever under the control of Northrop-Grumman, nor do N-G or Republic appear to have cooperated in the past. About the only place where they might have overlapped is in modernization of the A-10 Thunderbolt II, and that's well beyond the scope of IL2!

But, you might be right, since fans haven't seen the exact wording of the consent decree. If the consent decree required Oleg Maddox to get the words "I love Northrop-Grumman!" tattooed on his forehead, and he agreed to do it, he'd be legally bound to do so, regardless of the logic and justice of such an action. So, if N-G told 1c/Ubisoft "No aircraft produced by Republic" in the consent decree, we'd be screwed.

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Old 09-09-2012, 04:37 PM
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Marshall Philippines and Aleutian islands maps and campaigns

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:59 PM
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Respectfully, I think you're wrong.

Admittedly, my source is Wikipedia, but the evolution of Republic Aviation appears to be:

1965 -> Republic Aviation bought by Fairchild-Hiller
1971 -> Name change to Fairchild Industries
1996 -> Name change to Fairchild-Dornier (Oops, I guess that means no Dornier products! )

After 1996 -> Name changed to Fairchild Aerospace

1999 -> Fairchild Aerospace purchased by Allianz A.G. and Clayton, Dubilier & Rice Inc. Bankruptcy ensues

2003 -> Remaining assets of Fairchild Aerospace purchased by M7.

2010 -> M7 purchased by Ebit Systems.

At no point in time was Republic ever under the control of Northrop-Grumman, nor do N-G or Republic appear to have cooperated in the past. About the only place where they might have overlapped is in modernization of the A-10 Thunderbolt II, and that's well beyond the scope of IL2!

But, you might be right, since fans haven't seen the exact wording of the consent decree. If the consent decree required Oleg Maddox to get the words "I love Northrop-Grumman!" tattooed on his forehead, and he agreed to do it, he'd be legally bound to do so, regardless of the logic and justice of such an action. So, if N-G told 1c/Ubisoft "No aircraft produced by Republic" in the consent decree, we'd be screwed.
Interesting... I was certain that P-47 was off the list and Republic aircraft were part of the issue. There was a time where a P-47N was being developed and the issues that came up killed the project. Shame because the N model is very interesting and would fit into that late Pacific war setup much better than the shorter ranged D model.
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:17 AM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:29 PM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
Shouldn't be too difficult if I remember right it's essentially the same as a Yak-9 worth a few smaller differences.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:38 PM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
+1

and maybe it's not so obviously for someone's but yak-7b without gargrot need not only for history...

another, really GOOD weapon and little another perfomance, long life of production and lot of a aircrafts... i think, maybe, it's like fw190 serie with a-4 and a-8, but without a-5 and 6...

if DT do this and if with 3d model changes all good ( if DT can do this without any problems with authors etc), well, it's was be great...

just need to correct perfomance (little), ammo loads (only light bombs like ao-25 for all 7 (how i heard), no RS-82 in 43), and little 3d model (wings, cockpit, second ubs and maybe etc)...

not so much, and we have all info for this...


our first steps here (topic very reduced, don't know why and who did it)...
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