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Old 09-09-2012, 02:41 PM
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Unfortunately Republic was later bought by companies that are now ultimately owned by the "company that shall not be named" (and associated legal issues) and I doubt we'll see any further variants of the P-47 despite the desire to have something.
Respectfully, I think you're wrong.

Admittedly, my source is Wikipedia, but the evolution of Republic Aviation appears to be:

1965 -> Republic Aviation bought by Fairchild-Hiller
1971 -> Name change to Fairchild Industries
1996 -> Name change to Fairchild-Dornier (Oops, I guess that means no Dornier products! )

After 1996 -> Name changed to Fairchild Aerospace

1999 -> Fairchild Aerospace purchased by Allianz A.G. and Clayton, Dubilier & Rice Inc. Bankruptcy ensues

2003 -> Remaining assets of Fairchild Aerospace purchased by M7.

2010 -> M7 purchased by Ebit Systems.

At no point in time was Republic ever under the control of Northrop-Grumman, nor do N-G or Republic appear to have cooperated in the past. About the only place where they might have overlapped is in modernization of the A-10 Thunderbolt II, and that's well beyond the scope of IL2!

But, you might be right, since fans haven't seen the exact wording of the consent decree. If the consent decree required Oleg Maddox to get the words "I love Northrop-Grumman!" tattooed on his forehead, and he agreed to do it, he'd be legally bound to do so, regardless of the logic and justice of such an action. So, if N-G told 1c/Ubisoft "No aircraft produced by Republic" in the consent decree, we'd be screwed.

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Old 09-09-2012, 04:37 PM
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Marshall Philippines and Aleutian islands maps and campaigns

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Old 09-09-2012, 11:59 PM
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Respectfully, I think you're wrong.

Admittedly, my source is Wikipedia, but the evolution of Republic Aviation appears to be:

1965 -> Republic Aviation bought by Fairchild-Hiller
1971 -> Name change to Fairchild Industries
1996 -> Name change to Fairchild-Dornier (Oops, I guess that means no Dornier products! )

After 1996 -> Name changed to Fairchild Aerospace

1999 -> Fairchild Aerospace purchased by Allianz A.G. and Clayton, Dubilier & Rice Inc. Bankruptcy ensues

2003 -> Remaining assets of Fairchild Aerospace purchased by M7.

2010 -> M7 purchased by Ebit Systems.

At no point in time was Republic ever under the control of Northrop-Grumman, nor do N-G or Republic appear to have cooperated in the past. About the only place where they might have overlapped is in modernization of the A-10 Thunderbolt II, and that's well beyond the scope of IL2!

But, you might be right, since fans haven't seen the exact wording of the consent decree. If the consent decree required Oleg Maddox to get the words "I love Northrop-Grumman!" tattooed on his forehead, and he agreed to do it, he'd be legally bound to do so, regardless of the logic and justice of such an action. So, if N-G told 1c/Ubisoft "No aircraft produced by Republic" in the consent decree, we'd be screwed.
Interesting... I was certain that P-47 was off the list and Republic aircraft were part of the issue. There was a time where a P-47N was being developed and the issues that came up killed the project. Shame because the N model is very interesting and would fit into that late Pacific war setup much better than the shorter ranged D model.
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:17 AM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
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Old 09-10-2012, 08:29 PM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
Shouldn't be too difficult if I remember right it's essentially the same as a Yak-9 worth a few smaller differences.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:38 PM
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I would love to see the YAK 7B bubble top created & included in IL2. It gives a variation of the YAK 7B razorback.

I see quite a few photographs of this plane in & around the Stalingrad theatre
+1

and maybe it's not so obviously for someone's but yak-7b without gargrot need not only for history...

another, really GOOD weapon and little another perfomance, long life of production and lot of a aircrafts... i think, maybe, it's like fw190 serie with a-4 and a-8, but without a-5 and 6...

if DT do this and if with 3d model changes all good ( if DT can do this without any problems with authors etc), well, it's was be great...

just need to correct perfomance (little), ammo loads (only light bombs like ao-25 for all 7 (how i heard), no RS-82 in 43), and little 3d model (wings, cockpit, second ubs and maybe etc)...

not so much, and we have all info for this...


our first steps here (topic very reduced, don't know why and who did it)...
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:43 PM
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and maybe it's not so obviously for someone's but yak-7b without gargrot need not only for history...

another, really GOOD weapon and little another perfomance, long life of production and lot of a aircrafts... i think, maybe, it's like fw190 serie with a-4 and a-8, but without a-5 and 6...

if DT do this and if with 3d model changes all good ( if DT can do this without any problems with authors etc), well, it's was be great...

just need to correct perfomance (little), ammo loads (only light bombs like ao-25 for all 7 (how i heard), no RS-82 in 43), and little 3d model (wings, cockpit, second ubs and maybe etc)...

not so much, and we have all info for this...


our first steps here (topic very reduced, don't know why and who did it)...
Did Karabas ever finish with the Yak-7B Late variation? Wouldn't mind having it even if it's not too distinctly different from the early Yak-9. I can't see it being a difficult fit into the game.
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Old 09-21-2012, 04:39 AM
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Did Karabas ever finish with the Yak-7B Late variation? Wouldn't mind having it even if it's not too distinctly different from the early Yak-9. I can't see it being a difficult fit into the game.
Yes it has been completed & is included in HSFX 6. I think is uses the Yak 9FM
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Old 09-22-2012, 12:25 AM
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Default Clock in Fokker D.XXI cockpit doesn't run

I was wondering if it would be possible to have a working clock in the Fokker D.XXI cockpit. It is a small thing, but if it could be fixed, that would be great. For now, it looks like the clock is stopped at the mission start time.

By the way, the Fokker campaign that came with 4.11 is great!
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Old 09-22-2012, 01:06 AM
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Did Karabas ever finish with the Yak-7B Late variation?
i'm flew on this yak-7 in online and you can see him in all mod-forums...

about historical accuracy and standards of mod...

main external differences (all for fuselage of yak-9) - gunport and blister for second UBS, wings from yak-7 and cockpit from yak-9d (standart cockpit for new generation fighters in 43, if short) - were made, if i remember right, plus some change in perfomance and guns (here i can say what all good in total, but in fact need more series with different performance and need add "light" bombs, like ao-25 and - maybe - fab-50,100)...

maybe, all by standarts il2, because take original game parts, if i not wrong...

all minor external differences (if they were), i think no (+ here too much small differences of all series of yak-7, what hard to do)...

well, anyway, main work was made and anyway it's all need check...

and anytime you can contact with authors, i think (in 2010 or 11 i'm asked him about sending mod in DT, and he say "why not?" or something like this - don't found this post now)...

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Wouldn't mind having it even if it's not too distinctly different from the early Yak-9.
normal weight of yak-7b without gargrot - 3000-3050 kg, normal weight of "standart" yak-9 - 2850-2900 kg, and yak-7 have more powerful weapon and more ammo for weapon...

extra 100-150 kg and another weapon it's enough for include, i think...

and what i mean by "standart" yak-9, this is yak-9 1942 from game (early series in RL) and -
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От серийного Як-9 Як-9Д отличался в основном запасами горючего и смазочного материала.

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В авиаполку "Нормандия" и в других частях, имевших на вооружении Як-9Д, по собственной инициативе заглушали консольные бензобаки, и все полеты совершали при заправке только корневых баков.

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Согласно постановлению ГКО от 18 февраля 1943 г. все самолеты Як-9, в том числе Як-9Т, должны были с 1 марта выпускаться в варианте дальнего истребителя с запасом горючего 480 кг. Такая заправка в начальной стадии полета приводила к ухудшению летных характеристик, особенно скороподъемности и маневренности в вертикальной плоскости. Поэтому Як-9Т продолжали выпускаться с 330 кг горючего и полетной массой 3025 кг.
how you see, full fuel (and maybe oil) load of yak-9d was not used all time and not used for yak-9 with ns-37...

and this can be next request in wish list...


PS Sorry for so many edits...


and, sorry, little mistake here - normal weight of yak-9d with 320 kg fuel=полевая доработка, in avg 2970 kg, and not 2870 kg...

if and with 25 kg oil=2950...

plus, about ammo loads for yak-9, i forgot here these words about yak-7DI=prototype of yak-9, 9d -
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В заключении НИИ ВВС был также указан боезапас серийных самолетов: для пушки - 140 снарядов, для пулемета - 240 патронов. Бомбардировочное вооружение не предусматривалось.

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