Spit IIa is now so much more inferior to the 109

[Kwiatek]

Actually most fighters in CLoD ( 109, SPit, Hurricane) had wrong performacne and some got bugs in flight models which need revsion. Spitfire MK II had the most accurate performacne (speed, climb) but it is only modeled for 87 octan fuel - + 9lbs when should be modeled at 100 Octan fuel and +12 lbs emergency.

[JG52Krupi]

Well the spits can sure keep up with my E4 and they still can turn like a biplane so I am going to call BS on this.

This is called height advantage you would be able to do exactly the same thing to him if you had more height than him .

[Hooves]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Well the spits can sure keep up with my E4 and they still can turn like a biplane so I am going to call BS on this.

This is called height advantage you would be able to do exactly the same thing to him if you had more height than him .

If a Spit can keep up with your E-4 you are doing it wrong. Sorry but your fanboyism is not going to cover up the GINORMOUS performance gap between the 109's and Spits.

[Tettie]

Originally Posted by Hooves

If a Spit can keep up with your E-4 you are doing it wrong. Sorry but your fanboyism is not going to cover up the GINORMOUS performance gap between the 109's and Spits.

Is there any proof of that? This thread is all about opinions but no proof, from both sides. Any video's, accurate testing reports or anything?

[C6_Werner]

Originally Posted by Tettie

Is there any proof of that? This thread is all about opinions but no proof, from both sides. Any video's, accurate testing reports or anything?

109 turn better than the spit with low speed, below 370km/hour.
According to Closterman the pilots of spit who have to try are not to return to say it
2mn44 speak french.
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[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Hooves

If a Spit can keep up with your E-4 you are doing it wrong. Sorry but your fanboyism is not going to cover up the GINORMOUS performance gap between the 109's and Spits.

Err what fanboyism... just telling it how I see it. A spit is slower than it should be but it still can turn much better than a 109 from what I have read it is ridiculous, sure the spit is the better turner but not THAT much better...

[ReconNZ]

Originally Posted by JG52Krupi

Err what fanboyism... just telling it how I see it. A spit is slower than it should be but it still can turn much better than a 109 from what I have read is ridiculous, sure the spit is the better turner but not THAT much better...

Mate, turning is irrelevant - if you can climb better and fly faster, then you shouldnt ever get tagged. The 109 is far superior in almost any way. The turning difference is most likely due to the fact that the 109 is always going so much faster, so it seems like the spit turns better - truth is the slower object will always have the tighter turning circle - the difference you speak of is caused because the 109 is so much quicker!

[Insuber]

Originally Posted by ReconNZ

Mate, turning is irrelevant - if you can climb better and fly faster, then you shouldnt ever get tagged. The 109 is far superior in almost any way. The turning difference is most likely due to the fact that the 109 is always going so much faster, so it seems like the spit turns better - truth is the slower object will always have the tighter turning circle - the difference you speak of is caused because the 109 is so much quicker!

Again, from my direct hands-on experience this is not true. In a sustained turn the Spit IIa catches the 109 in a couple of 360's. Give the 109 a try and you will see, I really advise you to try it.
Another strange advantage of the Spit is the unrealistic roll rate at high speed, I was really surprised by this. In barrel rolls this was lethal for my poor 109 opponent ... LOL!

On speed: I followed a 109 hurrying for his life at low alt, and I was slowly gaining on him, but what made me slow down was the fear of damaging the engine, which in the 109 never happens. In the Spit you risk to blow the governor and engine in few minutes if you push it to the extreme for too longtime. That a disadvantage.

Cheers!

Cheers!

[JG52Krupi]

Originally Posted by Insuber

Again, from my direct hands-on experience this is not true. In a sustained turn the Spit IIa catches the 109 in a couple of 360's. Give the 109 a try and you will see, I really advise you to try it.
Another strange advantage of the Spit is the unrealistic roll rate at high speed, I was really surprised by this. In barrel rolls this was lethal for my poor 109 opponent ... LOL!

On speed: I followed a 109 hurrying for his life at low alt, and I was slowly gaining on him, but what made me slow down was the fear of damaging the engine, which in the 109 never happens. In the Spit you risk to blow the governor and engine in few minutes if you push it to the extreme for too longtime. That a disadvantage.

Cheers!

Cheers!

Thanks for clearing that up Insuber by the way your luftwhiner

So basically the red guys want there UFO spit back LMAO!

[FS~Phat]

Ive had quite a few hours in the new patch and noticed the optimum turning speed is pretty realistic in both of the Spits.

Its about 270Km/h for maximum corner angle, if you can get the 109 to drop his speed below this low enough and the advantage clearly goes to the spit IIA down to a point but if he maintains his speed, even though you might be pulling harder and slower, he will turn faster, quite a bit faster if there's a big differential in speed!

If the 109 pilot isnt just yanking on the stick and maintains his speed he will get you if you dont maintain 270km/h

If I remember correctly the corner speed of the early 109 E3 is slightly higher by 10Km/h.
Edit... yep just checked..

If your doing say 200Km/h and he maintains 235Km/h he has the turn advantage by 2 secs which is enough to get off a snap shot from the cannon!